Haha yeah.. up here my Dad an I have pulled some dune buggies(my dads old ones matter of fact) outta the 3 ft of mud in about 94 degrees 95%-100% humidity(its always high humidity up here, i hate it) while it was pouring rain due to sudden unpredicted sun showers.. only we did it with a 6.2 liter turbo diesel chevy K5 full-size blazer. :) - but you cant say it wasnt worth it though right Bart? ===== D.G. 713 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus