Ih duh. The box I buy for these is about 30"X24"x24" The scoop itself is 28" from side to side 22" from front to back and 5" from top to bottom. But with this size there is enough room for me to load it with paper to protect it. But it also leaves me room to ship it as is, or cut the box down without sacrificing the intergrity of the structure. And still leaves me room to pack it in so as to not get damaged. The postal places were really anal about the size. I can ship this box, uncut, for instance to Minnesota or California for about $22-$27. But they have gotten really restrictive about size. I used to use my gun boxes to ship out the front stainless spoilers I sell. One day, one of the postal ladies got out the tape and slapped me with a oversize charge, which was $8. So I cut the boxes down to almost spoiler size now. The big 71-74 AMX spoilers I sell, the boxes to ship them are large. One is 12X12X12 the other piece is 12X12X48. so put together it is about six feet high. About $40 to ship, depending on where, and can't ship to Canada as it is over $250, so i ask Canooks who want one to give me a US mailing address, I ship it there (usually a P.O. Box or friends houes just this side of border) and they save more in shipping than spoiler costs. So to answer John's question before I forget what the hell I was even talking about when this letter started, some boxes I use are large to protect the item. John's box, which he recently ordered two NOS Oil Filters, I took a hammer to them first to make sure they fit in the matchbox I shoved them in. Not a small scoop for the Machine! Big & flat! And again, they postal places wanted over $150 to ship it if I had it uncut, and the box was as damned flat as I could get it without damagint the high point of scoop, which is the tach area. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com volume of email is currently heavy 9-20 day replies, call if important ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Fw: Matador Machine Scoop cut in 1/2 shipped down under > > Eddie, > > Question not answered! :) > > Why did a little scoop require such a large box? > > John W Rosa > http://www.JavelinAMX.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:32 AM >> To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Fw: Matador Machine Scoop cut in 1/2 >> shipped down under >> >> >> >> No, and it is a long story, but since September 11th, many businesses >> practices changed. The limit on size to ship to Australia is 79 inches. I >> was quoted astronomical shipping prices to ship it past the 79 inch >> limit. >> Some shipping rates were as high as $300. So we emailed back and forth as >> I >> had charged him $50 shipping. I cut the box down. Took it to USPS, FedEx >> and >> UPS again. Still too big. Cut box down again to bare bones size. This >> time >> it was 71 inches and USPS sent it for $52/$53. I also tried shipping it >> thru >> Continental Airlines which is based in Houston (gee you would think they >> need the money, they are in serious trouble like US Airways, cutting >> saleries and laying off people) also contacted Quantas, which flies out >> of >> Bush IAH. (Named after the elder Bush). But neiter one accepts packages >> from >> individuals anymore due to September 11th! So I advised Garry down under >> he >> had two choices, a full refund or my amc-parts-seller-is-insane idea of >> cutting it in 1/2. >> >> Amazingly enough, he wanted me to cut it horizontically. I said I can't >> do >> that because of the damned raised piece for the tach. I suggested >> vertically, down the middle, of whihc if he has a good bodyman with >> fiberglass, he can fix it from underneath, then use bondo as bondo was >> intended for, on the top. So that is how it got cut in half. I risked >> screwing up a brand new, in box, scoop, as not handy as I used to be with >> electric saw you know. >> >> Here is my current auction on ebay with one: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4150&item=6503471552&rd=1 >> >> But everything turned out ok and this Aussie will be the only fellow in >> all >> of Austrailia with a Rebel Machine scoop on his AMC now. Sure, it took >> almost 3 months but was resolved. It was a pain in the ass on this end, >> but >> after 22 years as a vendor, I do out of my way to attempt to help people, >> heehee. >> Eddie Stakes' >> Planet Houston AMX >> 713.464.8825 >> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> www.planethoustonamx.com >> volume of email is currently heavy >> 9-20 day replies, call if important >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:02 PM >> Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Fw: Matador Machine Scoop cut in 1/2 >> shipped >> down under >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > How the heck did packing a wee little scoop >> > end up with a 79-inch package?!? You corner >> > the market on peanuts??? >> > >> > John W Rosa >> > http://www.JavelinAMX.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! 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