Re: [AMC-list] Pacer motor mounts oddities

["Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Seems like a odd thing to spend $40 million on development and production of the Pacer 
which shared few parts with anything else AMC too....just a couple years before AMC had 
spent $40 million buying Jeep from Willys you know.

So AMC got away from mode that made them successful.....interchangability of 
parts.......in the 60s, and much spent for glass, sheetmetal, dies, pressing, molds, 
rather endless here of what things unique as the Pacer itself. And Matador coupes. And 
Marlin lessons not learned before them.

Not knock on Pacer, Matty coupes or Marlin, it is just that AMC was top of game with 
getting away with 'new' models with cosmetic changes. How many of you remember AMC 
mentioning that "they were going to introduce a NEW model every SIX months" in 1970?

By 1971......you had 3 different Gremlins; 7 different Hornets; 3 different Matadors; 3 
different Javelins; and count them.....7 different Ambassador series. Total *23* models to 
choos from in your nearest AMC dealership. Easy as looking at back of your NOS 1971 full 
line color catalog and see choices! So subtle and not so subtle changes made a new model 
for AMC...easy as 'base' to 'DPL' to 'SST' for instance.

For all customers price ranges. That was marketing genius in my humble opinion, sort of 
what you see companies doing now, making smaller cereal boxes, or concave bottom of glass 
jar of peanut butter......looks same, costs same at store, just uh, getting LESS product. 
New & Improved! That's the Spirit Thing, lend a hand! As Gomez would say.......

$40 million. I could hang with Charlie Sheen for a night in Veags and his girls with that.
Eddie Stakes
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Ames" <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and 
family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Pacer in CO Springs /pacer motor mounts oddities


> Seems like an odd thing for AMC to do - have a special block for one model.
>
> Ken
>
>
> Quoting Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Glen Hoag mentioned of the Pacer in CO here:
> >
> > http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/2234564950.html
> >
> > "I'm fairly certain that the 1974 and earlier blocks will not fit the Pacer.
> > Attachment
> > points for the motor mount brackets to the block may also have changed."
> >
> > I had hell of a time finding a Pacer six years ago for my custom woodie
> > wagon, I could get
> > regular old 232 and 258 at pick a parts for $89 whole engine, but none of
> > them would fit
> > as the motor mounts were totally different for Pacer. So had to find a Pacer
> > to
> > cannibalize for drivetrain. A 258 is a 258 and 232 is 232 until it is in a
> > Pacer, they sat
> > in at odd angle, was not motor mounts, was the actual block mounting was
> > different. So
> > bought whole Pacer and pulled drivetrain for my woodie wagon
> >
> > http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/pacer-commercial.htm
> >
> > and parted out rest years ago.
> >
> > Eddie Stakes
> > 713.464.8825
> > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.planethoustonamx.com
> >
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