Re: [AMC-list] Fw: rambler problems

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

My 327's were flexplate with ring. Converter does not have ring.
This is 1965 pieces.

I can probably spare a conv and flexplate if needed.

I think someone told me the 287 got the ring on the conv.

I can look at my 287 to see, can't remember if the flexplate is on it or not!

I can also measure bell depth if needed.

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Frank Swygert" <farna@xxxxxxx>
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: gmartel1@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:20:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Fw: rambler problems
> 
> I believe all the older BW auto trannys used a torque converter with
> the starter ring gear made onto it. The front pump is identical in
> construction and design to the later models though. You should be able
> to use a 290 flexplate and torque converter with the M-8, but I don't
> know anyone who has done it.
> 
> Check the depth of the bell housings first. If they are close to the
> same (within 1/4") you should be okay. The torque converter must go
> into the trans far enough, but not put pressure against it. There is
> usually a 1/16-1/8" gap between the converter and flexplate with the
> converter shoved back as far into the trans as it will go. Should be
> no more than 1/8", and converter should turn without binding against
> the flexplate. If there is more than a 1/8" gap washers can be used to
> push the converter back, but you MUST make sure the bolts are long
> enough. I'd use lock-tight on them too. The converter centers on the
> crank with a "nose" on the converter that goes into a pilot bushing.
> There is no stress on the nose, it's just for centering. It needs to
> go at least 1/8" into the bushing. If washers are used an extended
> pilot bushing may be necessary.
> 
> You will have to use a 290 flexplate, or have a flexplate match
> balanced to an original 290 flexplate. The only way around that is to
> have the 290 internally balanced and use a neutral flexplate (late AMC
> six flexplate). That requires engine tear-down for balancing and may
> be costly though.
> 
> Some things you have to figure out for yourself. Someone on the list
> can measure the bells for you, but you'll have to get a 67-71 AMC
> M-11/12 torque converter (or an M-4x converter) and check it for fit
> in the M-8 pump. I think it will work, but that's all I can say.
> 
> ---------------
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:26:33 -0600
> From: "Eddie Stakes"<eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I spoke with Garrett here the other day and they are trying to do a
> interchange, and if someone can offer advise, please feel free to
> comment, and copy your reply to them and thanks in advance to all who
> might reply.
> Eddie Stakes
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garrett Martelgmartel1@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> hi eddie
> 
> i spoke with you  on monday regarding my  63 rambler wagon.  what i am
> trying to do is put a 68 290 out of my rebel into my 63 cross country
> wagon  that was originally equipt with a 287.  i have managed to get
> all the right component  except i need a tourque converter for my 
> borge warner m8 transmission.  i have a one peice converter and
> flexplate but it is a 176 tooth  andi need it to be a 164 to work with
> my 290. i have a flex plate i just need a m-8 converter that i can
> bolt to my flexplate. so my question in do the make converter that are
> not welded to the flexplate for the m-8 transmission and where can i
> get one.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Swygert
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