Re: [AMC-list] time to find a stout 5 spd tranny now i think.

["Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ah yes, Mr. Sandwichmaker, you are so correct with your terminology,
I was experiencing brain fade when I was writing my post and could not make
myself
come up with the correct words.

My experience with the Ford T5 is that the bearing retainer was larger in
diameter than the
AMC multi bell. My multi bell came from a 79 Spirit AMX with an SR4 four
speed. I bought
a steel retainer from Hanlon Motorsports. He was or John Elle was the one
that suggested getting a steel retainer
because the factory aluminum retainer was noted for deep grooves appearing
and then the disc
could hang up/make noise, things like that. If I remember correctly, the SR4
bearing retainer also
would fit on the T5 as they are sort of derived from the same idea, but it's
aluminum too.

Good advice about the pilot bearing, and you are correct, that one was easy
to solve, I paid attention
to what John Elle had to say about the swap, and went to the local NAPA and
pulled the bearing off
their shelf, went home and figured out I needed a pilot bearing puller,
which I found, but others have said it's
possible to remove the pilot bearing using grease and forcing it out with
pressure somehow.

I have several years and possibly up to 6000 miles on my swap, and so far no
troubles. The "5.0" T5 likes being
in my Javelin just fine.........and I like it being there, it was such an
easy swap and I enjoyed the heck out of doing
the work.
I found a B & M pro shifter for it and it makes the whole thing look killer.

Armand

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AMC-list] time to find a stout 5 spd tranny now i think.


> " From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> "
> " Here's a little more T5 information, the Ford sourced T5 up to 1993 will
> " exchange with an AMC T5, bolt right up to that multi pattern bellhousing
> " that AMC made. The input shaft housing is a larger diameter where it
mates
> " to the bell housing so the input shaft housing will need to be turned
down
> " in a lathe to match the hole in the bell, or swap an AMC input housing
onto
> " the T5.
>
> that 'input shaft housing' is called the front bearing retainer, and
> the 5.0 t5's is the same size as the amc t150 3sp and jeep t177 4sp
> which used the multipattern bell.  also, 4-cyl ford t5 retainers may
> be the smaller amc/gm diameter.
>
> " Use the AMC bell housing/clutch linkage/throwout bearing parts too.
There
> " are a lot more Ford sourced T5s out there than AMC T5s. The spline of
the
> " input shaft is 1/16 less in diameter than the AMC but is easily dealt
with
> " by using a Ford sourced clutch disc.
>
> likewise, easy to solve the ford pilot bearing problem with a t150-app
> part.
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