Re: [AMC-list] eagle dies at stops signs/lights

[Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Not to say that it can't happen, but I've been driving AMCs for 35 years and
have not had any trouble with cam walk.

Now that I think about it, it was almost exactly 35 years ago today that I
ordered my Gremlin. : )

Ken Ames

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Quoting Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> 
> 
> Do you have a big chunk of keys on your chain? The weight of them swinging
> can partially turn the ignition switch. Did I mention the dreaded cam walk?
> (fairly easily fixed on the 4.2L by changing the timing cover to one from a
> 4.0L along with the bolt in the cam, which is really a cam button.)
>    The unit that screws into the intake is thermal control for something in
> the BBD computer. The O2 sensor is screwed into the exhaust manifold below
> the EGR valve.
> 
> Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx; amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > CC: baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: eagle dies at stops signs/lights
> > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:24:51 -0500
> > 
> > Hi Jimn and thanks tot all who have replied so far, a lot of excellent
> > advise. Here is what I have replaced:
> > New carb $250
> > New ignition module $70
> > spark plugs
> > rotor
> > cap
> > It runs great but still conks out for no reason sometimes, most recently
> > today.
> > 
> > I was driving along I-10 feeder road and it felt like it sort of lost
> power,
> > then regained compusure.
> > On top of the manifold directly behind the power steering unit something
> > that screws into the intake from top and a wire goes into it. The unit is
> > broken, not sure what it might be, maybe O2 sensor?
> > 
> > In back of the breather there is two provisions for something that on my
> > other 88 Eagle; has two emission tubes. These are not hooked up to
> anything
> > and looking under car there is nothing to hook them up to if they were
> > there, in other words, they were bypassed at some point.
> > 
> > The car seems to have lots of pep with 78K miles. It is just that this
> > sputtering sometimes or outright dying is annoying. Someone else mentioned
> > it is something in the steering column, somehting I have not heard before.
> > 
> > So slowly will figure this out, and again, thanks to all who have replied
> on 
> > the various lists, keep ideas coming,
> > Eddie Stakes
> > 713.464.8825
> > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.planethoustonamx.com
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jim Blair" 
> > To: ; "Eddie Stakes"
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AMC-list] eagle dies at stops signs/lights
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've had that stalling problem with my Spirit (and Eagles and Jeeps)
> several
> > times too.
> > 
> >    First it was the carb being loose (grab ahold of the body of the carb
> > with the aircleaner off and see if you can twist it. If the answer is yes,
> > pop it off and re-tighten the main body screws up from the bottom and the
> > other 2 from the top. Replace base gasket and don't bang carb upside down!
> > That will mess with the float level). The weight of the air cleaner, which
> > is held down only by the air cleaner stud, rocks back and forth and
> loosens
> > the screws.
> > 
> >    Then the stepper motor was sticking (cleaned it out with throttle body
> > cleaner. NOTE: Do NOT use WD40 or anything else with silicon lube in it!
> > That will kill the O2 sensor that makes the BBD function properly and will
> > cost you fuel economy. If you don't have the stepper, then it doesn't
> > matter)
> > 
> >    Then the rust in the gas tank clogged up the carb, filters, etc. I took
> > the top off the carb, reset the float and sprayed everything clean along
> > with a new filter. (I had to do it twice more before I added another
> inline
> > filter and sediment bowl before the fuel pump)
> > 
> >    The car got hard to start when cold and it puzzled me as the choke was
> > perfect. Found out the rust had eaten (or jammed) the valves in the fuel
> > pump and allowed the fuel to go back to the tank after shut off. New fuel
> > pump and fresh pre-filter again. (I recently cured that rust problem with
> a
> > good used replacement fuel tank, but now it needs a sending unit as I was
> > lubing my old one and accidentally dropped it. Now it only reads full to
> 3/4
> > tank)
> > 
> >    I've had a few other things happen before too. Ignition module going
> > south was one. With the motor warmed up, smack the Motorcraft module with
> a
> > rubber mallet. If the car shuts off, replace the module.
> > 
> >    Another was a torque converter going bad. Put the car in forward gear
> and
> > even the slightest gas would make it stall. Worked fine in reverse. The
> fix
> > was to drop the valve body and plug off the line to the lockup converter
> (S
> > shaped tube on top of '77ish and newer Mopar style trans) with a large BB.
> > That defeats the lockup, doesn't cost much (except time, a trans service
> > kit, a BB and the seal for the shifter linkage shaft. The linkage has to
> be
> > removed and re-adjusted to work properly when done. I highly suggest
> > pressure washing to degrease the driver's side of the trans before working
> > on it)
> > 
> > As for the Nutter Bypass, a google search will show it on may sites
> > including my own old one at Geocities. (photos got messed up with mine)
> > 
> > Loud internal noises can cause the knock sensor (which is really just a
> > microphone tuned to certain sound wavelength) to radically retard timing
> and
> > can cause stalling too.
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Eddie Stakes"
> > Subject: [AMC-list] eagle dies at stops signs/lights
> > To: , ,
> > 
> > Message-ID:
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> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Somewhere on the Eagle nest forum, there is/was a thread about AMC Eagle
> > dying for no reason at stop signs and stop lights. Always cranked right
> back
> > up no problem, but more of a annoyance than anything. For some reason I
> > thought it had something to do with carb, but unsure. Anyone remember the
> > link or thread about that feel free to post it here so I can go check it
> > out, to troubleshoot a Eagle. Thanks in advance to all who might reply.
> > Eddie Stakes
> > 713.464.8825
> > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.planethoustonamx.com
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