Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)

[tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>]

You're right Russ, it (anything!) can BE done. But unlike most AMC to AMC
swaps, it's a Big Deal. I have one (two) of 'em, and motors, and a tape
measure, and I can tell you for certain, ain't no way to shoe-horn one in
there without MAJOR sheet metal hackery. Frank says 5" but I think more like
9" more room needed.  The 195.6 is far shorter than normal, and the car is
literally built around it; the 232/258 is I think the longest US passenger
car engine when it was in production. Not a good pairing.

That's all. It could be done.  And that Ferrari, the motor was in the wagon
back! If it was in front, it woulda gone all the way to the back seat.

The early American is this small: with my palms gripping the steering wheel,
I can EASILY put my fingers on the windshield glass. That's small!

(Oh man would I love to have an early american with a 232 in it. I think the
2.5L four-banger is the way to go. Yeah, it's missing two holes but the
other four are real AMC holes.)

I think the bias here is, we tend to think in terms of what we can wrench at
home and drive daily, so that lowers my threshold for extreme hacking.






On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Frank; I disagree that the late model six won't fit into the breadbox
> Rambler. I have seen those years, and the earlier bathtubs, with AMC sixes,
> V8s, generic GMs, and on and on.
> The latest abortion featured in a magazine was a Ferrari engine-tranny
> combo in a bath tub American wagon.
> A real popular swap is a complete GM S-10 frame and engine-tranny swap into
> an early American, man you gotta be really into that combo for all the work
> involved. But there is one running around here that is really nice. He even
> airbrushed the side trim on the car. Looks nice but it is a garage queen.
> Now the question remains; how determined are you and how much dough do you
> wanna toss at it.
> The 64 is easy, comparably, and I think I pointed that out. I just used the
> existing 83 Xmembers and treated it like a 65. I used an electric fan to get
> away with that prob.
> But to say it can't be done, come on!! I have seen Hemis in Fiats and 500
> Caddys in Chevetts. If he is serious then he needs to take a serious look at
> the car, do some measuring and peek at his wallet. Then decide
>
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All your arguments are invalid.
Enjoy your unstable system.
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