Re: [Amc-list] Jeep Cherokee Driveline in a mid to late 60's American?

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

oops, got distracted and hit send too soon!
Anyway, the gear ranges on the ax15 are actually better than what I have right now.
3.8 in first IIRC, mine is 4.  Now the ax15 is pretty notchy in its shifting from my point of view.
But not horrible.

  As for bolt in, yep, pretty much for 99 and earlier4.0L!
Been there done that! You'll spend more time laying in the wiring and tidying up stuff than anything else if you use the efi.

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

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From: "Wrambler" <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Jeep Cherokee Driveline in a mid to late 60's American?

Eevrything I've read and seen shows the cherokee axle at 59" or wider.
I do not think that axle is the best choice.
I have read the ax15 will clear the tunnel and gear ranges are actually b

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

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From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:44:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Jeep Cherokee Driveline in a mid to late 60's American?

" From: Mike S <amc_rebel_sst@xxxxxxxxx>
" 
" 
" Just curious if anyone has put in an entire 2-wheel driveline, engine
" to rear end in a mid/late 60's American.  From what I've been reading,
" the 4.0 should drop in, you could probably use the tranny since it's a
" 2 wd cherokee and the rear end, from what I've been reading is 55 1/4
" inches flange to flange and the Americans is 56 1/2 flange to flange. 

the 4.0 is an easy swap, at least up to '99 or so; about then they
finally deleted the old amc mounts [which jeep never used] in a block
revision.  i've seen one in a '69 american and it was so slick i
walked right past it at first - and that's after driving '66-'68
americans daily for almost 2 decades.  it went right onto the original
mounts.

there's a fellow, on the yahoo strokers list and here also iirc, who's
putting one in a '64 american, and someone else with another '69.

the american rear -track- is 55.5"; the axle is much narrower than
that between the flanges.  xj track is more like 60.5".  for a
stronger axle there's the rare american v8 amc20, '73-6 dart v8 8.25",
'88?-'91? ranger 8.8" - but the amc15 is pretty stout also; the xj
dana 35 is based on it.

on the tranny, i don't know where the shifter would end up relative to
the bench seat; that could be a problem.  tolerable but not desireable
is the trucklike gearing of the box.  you could swap it for a ~'90 +/-
turbo supra r154; it's also made by aisin warner but the days when
yards almost gave them away seem to be past.  you could use an amc
sr4/t4/t5 bell and mustang 5.0 t5.  there are other possibilities...

" I understand for the rear you'd have to change the spring
" perches/mounts because the cherokee uses coils and the americans
" use leaf.  

nb. the xj uses leaves also; the grands - zj on up - and tj wrangler
have rear coils.

" I think that this would be an interesting swap if the rears would fit.  

it's very interesting!
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