Re: [Amc-list] Water line in six cyl. intake (was: Engine for sale)

[adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)]

" From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" I have an original 1966 American with the 199 six and the water heated
" intake manifold.  I think 1966 was the first year for smog rules
" affecting the cars in CA.  My car has air pump system.  I thought the
" water heated manifold might have been used to reduce the choke "on"
" time and improve fuel vaporization for smog reasons. Maybe AMC thought
" they needed that to get a smog certification, but I really don't know
" what the testing rules were back then.  The 232 from 1966 would have
" been had with either the Holley single barrel or the Carter 2-bbl but
" I don't know if either or both cars had the heated manifold.  
" 
" Joe Fulton
" 
" 
" --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
" 
" > From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" > 
" > Frank Swygert wrote:
" > > all the Holley 1909 1V carb 195.6 engines got the water line. The
" > > Carter WCD 2V carb didn't have it, and I don't think the other 1V
" > > carbs had it either. Don't know about the 199/232 for sure, but I'm
" > > pretty sure none of them have a water heated intake, not when the
" > > intake and exhaust are bolted together anyway. Could be wrong...
" > 
" > I wonder what the reason/logic is? It's new-at-introduction, so there 
" > were two manifolds out in the market on nearly identical motors (199 vs. 
" > 232). Perceived market-use? Was some big fleet (telephone companies, 
" > etc) demanding some sort of cold-weather thing with the 199, so AMC just 
" > did it across the board? Or is it some sort of left-hand-lugnut silliness?

my first rambler was in fact an ex-telco car [purchased about a mile
from a telco fleet depot] but my other 2 '66s weren't and all had the
water intake.  also afaik all were local new england cars; certainly
none had the ca air pump.

my '67 marlin had the 232-2bbl; that intake was not water heated.  i
miss that car.

pp 5-20 of my '66 01 tsm shows the water heated 199 and non-heated 232
intakes; pp 5-44 of my '67 10-50-80 tsm shows the non-heated 232
intake; but pp 5-40 of my '68 tsm shows only the water heated intake
and specifically mentions its app on the 232 rogue only.
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