Re: [Amc-list] '63 Ambo answers to questions noone asked!

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Ewe, yuck.
Mine is getting Rampart red, correct or not, I'm not painting it orange!
Are you sure they kept to that scheme through 66?
I think mine are Rampart, near as I can tell, not much paint left after 43 years.
They are all 4bbl, except the Jeep engine, which is blue and low compression, but only has 37K on it+-.

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jerijan" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Greetings,
> If your engine is "Ramparts Red" (or Rambler Red), and it is original to
> that car, then it IS a 327 LO compression (ie, two bbl).  The HiComp number
> was more Orange (as in, umm, well, ChevyOrange)...ChevyOrange in fact is the
> nearest color to that I've seen, and it's what I've used to recolor the
> engines (in 58 up).
> Jj
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Victor the Cleaner
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:20 AM
> To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] '63 Ambo answers to questions noone asked!
> 
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 03:15:57AM -0500, Jerijan wrote:
> 
> > Greetings from under the snowbanks...
> 
> Yeah, us too.  And -30...
> 
> > Yeah, the 2 bbl were lower compression than the 4bbls, BUT keep in 
> > mind that a 2bbl could have been added to an engine born with 4bbls.  
> 
> Fair enough, but there's nothing here that suggests anything's been
> modified from stock, and it'd be weird for a a dealer to do a carb and
> manifold swap downwards in '63.
> 
> > Therefore the ONLY way to surely tell is the piston itself...the 2bbl 
> > has but one notch the 4bbl has two (or is it the other way around??)...
> 
> Man, I've *really* gotta get me a borescope.
> 
> > The bore is clearly on the land behind the right cylinder head...and the
> > 'compression' and size is on the tag on the alternator bracket...assuming,
> > of course, the bracket is original to that car!!
> 
> A true rarity, in my experience.
> 
> > So you could end up with a 327 bbl engine where a 287 2bbl was born and
> not
> > know it because the VIN says '287'!  
> > Of course, engine color helps, but that, too, is changeable.  That is done
> > using this chemical called, 'paint'.  
> 
> Again, the block is red, and nothing else suggests deviation from stock.
> 
> Well, since it's '63, it doesn't appear there's much to be learned from 
> the serial/vin - the HT33 conforms to expectations, but doesn't provide
> an engine code.  So I'll just have to go with the assumption that this
> is the low-compression 327 until something suggests otherwise.
> 
> > You can tell an 'early' 327 from a later one by the location of the motor
> > mounts.  57-62 is your 'early' engine, and then 63-up the laters.  Do keep
> > in mind that these cannot be switched.  A 63 engine won't fit into a 62
> > because the mount brace holes are simply not present in the other's 'vice
> > versa'...that is, you can't just switch the placement of the mounts
> because
> > there isn't anyplace to put it.
> 
> Ah, I didn't know that.
> 
> > For the Trannys, if it has cable control (ie, push button), these cases
> are
> > not interchangeable either.  SO again, 62 and down, 63 and up.  
> > For Select-o-matic vs Flash-O-Matic, these can be interchanged but some
> have
> > vacuum controls and others do not.  These can interchange but you'll
> change
> > some 'lines' and 'cables'.  Other than that...everything is just fine.
> > Why, though, is '62 such a 'one year only' model?? Even the Package Net is
> > year specific!
> 
> Not even *thinking* about trannies at this point.  Hope I don't have to in
> the short term.
> 
> jl
> 
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