Re: [Amc-list] !!@@#$@$ clutch linkage

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Mine is not the same setup, but I can say the entire setup was designed a little half cocked.
The top of the z-bar is twistes so that the rod from the clutch pedal actual twists as the pedal is depressed!
The rod actually moves from one side of the hole through the firewall to the other!
I looked at the Zbar when I installed it the first time and thought it had bent due to use.
I spent some time tweaking it to get it aligned and straight. Installed it and found the rod travelled farther!
The issue is the way the Zbar sits the frame side hole is offset slightly from the bellhousing side requiring the crooked bend and strange funky angle!  I expect the whole problem may be because of the move from the 196 to the 199-232. I'm not sure though.  I ended up rebending the Zbar to get the funky thing working correctly again!

   I later picked up a complete 65 setup for spares and the Zbar is exactly that same as the one I have in the car that is from a 67, so I know it is not a fluke on my car.

   Perhaps when you built yours you made something too straight?  

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> I think I'm having a problem with my clutch linkage... I put a new 
> clutch in the American this last spring? I forget. Had trouble with the 
> fabric pivot support, made one of of sheet steel. Works fine, still OK 
> down there.
> 
> But the clutch is "all in" right at the top of the pedal travel. I can't 
> figure it out! It was like that when I installed the new one. New disc, 
> pressure plate, and TO bearing. All exact replacements.
> 
> Clutch works fine. No slippage. Pedal play is fine. So no performance 
> issues at all.
> 
> Even a worn-out clutch doesn't affect pedal TRAVEL. Even worn down to 
> the center, you just lengthen the adjuster rod and all the geometry 
> stays the same. Mine's not worn though, and hasn't needed adjustment of 
> course, only 7000 miles.
> 
> Twice I went under there with a light to see what it would take to 
> create this problem. About the only thing that COULD move is the 
> "inside" pivot of the Z bar. (It's not a Z in this car, it's a classic 
> bellcrank.) The plane it rotates on isn't *exactly* perpendicular to the 
> driveline, but it's close. It's also level. The motor mounts are all new 
> and tight.
> 
> The bellcrank does have that peculiar forked rubber insulated thing; 
> make a fist in each hand, stick out your two big fingers parallel, 
> rotate one 90 degrees and stick your fingers together all 4 beside each 
> other. WOrks like that. No one around today to press the pedal while I 
> climb under to look.
> 
> Anyone else have this happen? Does anyone on this list drive an American 
> manual trans? how's your clutch pedal feel and act?
> 
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