Re: [Amc-list] 196 parts

[Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>]

I'm not sure WHY there is a bulge/cone on the 57-62 cranks. I'd always thought the cone was only used for the Hydramatic, but it's obvious now that I was mistaken. None of the 196 powered cars I've had/worked on ever had the cone, but I've only had a couple with autos, and they were both 63s. All others were manual shift. Well, one was E-stick, but that uses a manual flywheel with special clutch. 

Obviously there was a torque converter design change for the 1963 model year. I know the Hydramatic cars used it, as I've seen an early 196 with a Hydro on it (55 or 56... don't even recall if it was L-head or OHV now... HUGE trans for that little engine!), but nothing between then and 63 with auto trans -- or rather none with the transmission removed. From 63 on all the crank flanges are flat, and auto/manual is the same (pilot bushing may be different, don't recall now!). 

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:55:14 -0800
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>

d stohler wrote:

>  i can tell  you for
> positivily sure, without a doubt, in 62 (car build date is feb, motor
> is jan) that they have the bulge on the crank.... what am i gonna do
> now??? the hole in the manual flywheel is smaller than the auto
> crank. and also has the bulge.


But the flywheel fits on the crank with a bulge! I personally did it. 
Fits. I thought I posted photos somewhere? 

In 62, that's the Flush-O-Manic trans (BW), not the old Hydramatic or 
whatever required that bulge. Probably another one of those old AMC "off 
the top of the pile/we got a load of 'em out back" parts. With manual or 
Borg Warner autos there's no need for that bulge or two different 
cranks, same as the 232!

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