Re: [Amc-list] 7 Main Bearing engine into 62 Classic

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

I'd love to know why, comcrap truncates these things when they come back to me?
All for only $45 a month for broadband....

Anyway, if the message did not come thru to others complete.
I was offering up the 69 232 from My american.
about 76K on it, ran great. free for the taking!
Just need to check it to make sure it is not siezed and drag it out.
When I get to it on my own it will be parted out as I'm not storing it complete anymore.
Good engine, or was, come save it.

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

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From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Again, free for the taking FREE, Yes FREE!!!
> Did I mention it was FREE?
> 
> I'd think you could get away with about 3/8" max on the spacer.
> That all depends on pilot length and clutch disc design.
> I have in my car a pilot bushing that is setup to stay rearward.
> I got a bushing that had the right internal dimension for the trans and a larger 
> external dimension.
> I had the external turned in a lathe to form a lip about a 1/4" on one side. 
> Then tapped it in till it seated against the lip. I used bearing loctite.
> 
>    You can usually find pilots bearing of different diameters and lengths by 
> scrounging from different years and makes.
> 
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "oldcars@xxxxxxxxx" <oldcars@xxxxxxxxx>
> > After having a good look at things, I have come to think that I might want
> > to use the 1967 199 instead of the later 232. 
> > 
> > The 1967 199 should bolt up to the 1962 bell housing, which means I can
> > retain the rear mounts as are already in place.
> > I imagine I would have to use the 1967 starter
> > I should be able to use the 1962 flywheel and clutch internals...or would I
> > need to use the 1967 flywheel?
> > 
> > Now, as far as the transmission itself goes, the top bolts and the bearing
> > retainer look to be in the exact same location on both transmissions.
> > The difference is in the lower 2 bolts. 
> > It looks like the lower holes from the 62 would line up on the outside of
> > the transmission case of the 67.
> > So...I am thinking I could make a pair of brackets which would bolt to the
> > lower holes in the 1962 bellhousing, and to the lower holes (ears) on the
> > 1967 transmission. 
> > 
> > That way there would be no space between the front face of the transmission
> > and the bellhousing rear face.
> > 
> > If it became necessary to make a plate which would bolt to all 6 holes (top
> > 2 bolts would bolt through the plate, the plate would bolt to the bottom 2
> > holes on the bellhousing, and to the bottom holes (ears)on the
> > transmission. 
> > How thick could I get away with making such a plate?
> > Eventually it would interfere with the tip of the input shaft being in the
> > bearing at the back of the crankshaft.
> > 
> > I would prefer not to have to disassemble both transmissions and move all
> > the internals over from the 67 to the 62.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From:  adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:33:19 -0400 (EDT)
> > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 7 Main Bearing engine into 62 Classic
> > 
> > 
> > " From: "oldcars@xxxxxxxxx" <oldcars@xxxxxxxxx>
> > " 
> > " Hey Gang, 
> > " 
> > "     I have been looking at my 62 Classic, and trying to figure out what to
> > " do with it.  As you may remember, the T96 is jammed into 2 gears at once,
> > " and I figure it is a writeoff. 
> > 
> > it can be unjammed.  my second american used to do this until i
> > readjusted the shift linkage.  i drove it without further problems for
> > some 8 years after that.
> > 
> > "     I have a T96 out of a 67 American, and was figuring on taking it and
> > " using the gearbox (front part) from it and the tailshaft housing from the
> > " 62, but as was pointed out, the front face of the T96 got changed when the
> > " cars went from 4-point mounting to 3-point mounting, so that the 67
> > gearbox
> > " will not bolt up to the 62 clutch.
> > " 
> > "     Sitting next to the 62 is a pretty rusty 75 Gremlin, with a good
> > " running 232, and it has the multi-pattern bell so it will bolt up to a
> > " T96 (the Grem has a 150-T).
> > " 
> > "     []
> > " 
> > "       So....if I take the gearbox from the 1967 and bolt it to the 62
> > " tailshaft housing, and bolt that up to the 232 and multi-pattern bell, and
> > " get the extensions welded onto the middle crossmember (would need to make
> > " some kind of jig up, so that it would hold them at the right distance
> > apart
> > " and and the right angle of rotation relative to the horizon looking at it
> > " from the front), and if I could find some kind of really thin insulator to
> > " go between the multi-pattern bell and the rear cross member...would it
> > work?
> > 
> > maybe you could fab some steel 'elephant ears' that would bolt to the
> > big ford [t150] pattern on the bell and hook to the rear 4-point
> > mounts?  but the bell is as you say bigger, so the mounts probably end
> > up wanting to be inside it...
> > 
> > idle speculation - wonder if later big car or jav crossmembers would
> > bolt in?
> > 
> > "        One question is the clutch bellcrank - can I use the inner pivot
> > " (mounted to the bell housing) from the 75 with the 62 bellcrank? They look
> > " like they would line up. Can I just use the clutch internals from the 75?
> > " It looks like the input shafts should be compatible.
> > 
> > are you sure the grem has a t150?  iirc amc's last t14s went into
> > grems as late as '76 while big cars got t150s as early as '74.  if it
> > is a t14, a shame you can't [easily] use it - geared like the t96 but
> > full synchro; stronger too - but you'd need something like a jeep t14
> > t/c adapter, then you'd have to mill up a block to go between it and
> > the tt donut and take the torque rods...
> > 
> > afaik the 9" pp was used from the late '50s / early '60s up to the
> > late '70s, so that'll bolt up, but the disk for the t150 has a 1 1/16"
> > spline vs. the smaller - 15/16" or 1", i've heard both - t96/t14
> > spline, so you'll need a different disk.  if you already have a 9"
> > clutch, you have it.
> > 
> > you could also go hd with a 10" pp and perfection rcf446 disk or
> > crossmatch, if one's still available.  [on the '71-earlier bells the
> > pp  - at least b&b type - has to really be 10", but you don't have to
> > worry]
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
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> > adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
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