Re: [Amc-list] 199 rods in a 4.0l was Re: Rambler six comma fast
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Re: [Amc-list] 199 rods in a 4.0l was Re: Rambler six comma fast



" From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" What length are 196 and or 327 rods?
" Maybe something there?
" The 199 crank sure would keep the piston "up in the bore"!
" 
" 
" From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx>
" 
" 327 rods (forged) are 6.375" long and have the big end diameter of the
" 401 rods, but are wider (1.0" I think).

not the 2.095" of the 290-360 and later sixes?  shucks.

" 196 rods (forged) are like 6.875" long, but I don't recall the exact
" measurement.
"
" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" WOAH.
" 
" Datson's book sez:
" 
" OHV comp height 2.1875
" rod length 6.825"
" 
" Not a typo!
" 
" And of course it's forged.

their pins are much smaller than the 199's, 0.860" vs. 0.930", but the
327 and even the '55 252 six - though oddly not earlier 252s/234s/etc
- are the same size.

anyone have 252 rod specs?  not that we're likely to ever see any...

" Immediately following that (man, it's hard to find stuff in these books) 
" is a paragraph on Navarro -- that he "may have" run 195.6 rods in the 
" Indy six. The big end of the rod is the same as later AMC (2.095 -3 +5), 
" the little end different, and the rod would need to be narrowed (bearing 
" is .964" wide). But that's 1.609" longer than stock! Umm hard to make 
" that all up in compression height!
" _______________________________________________

6.825" is only 0.700" longer than the 199 / '70s 232 / 4.0 6.125" rod.
you could just barely handle it on a 199 crank in a '71-up tall deck
block; by my calc a 1.15" pin height, and that's just about the
minimum i've seen on any aftermkt american slugs.  i'm not so sure
you could make it work in a '64-'70 block.

if the 327 rods had a usable big end, you could just about drop them
in and run stock slugs on them, with a 199 crank in a 4.0 block.

sonic check and bore it to 4.0" and you get 226 cubes.
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