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- From: "Jayson Helenske" <rebel67@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:14:01 -0500
1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil?
contact www.bulltear.com
use the 15w40 HD oil that has the detergents in the oil. You use one quart
of the 15w40, and 4 quarts of regular grade 10w30 oil. Oil these days do
not have the zinc levels to keep the engine well lubed, etc.
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> 1. Re: 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil? (Sandwich Maker)
> 2. Re: Another 70s AMX (Frank Swygert)
> 3. Re: 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil? (Frank Swygert)
> 4. Re: regrinding 196 cam? (Frank Swygert)
> 5. Re: regrinding 196 cam? (Greg Taylor)
> 6. 60 Rambler Wagon FS - Low Miles (Frank Swygert)
> 7. Re: 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil? (Tom Jennings)
> 8. Re: Another 70s AMX (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 9. Re: Another 70s AMX (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 10. Re: 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil? (Sandwich Maker)
> 11. Re: regrinding 196 cam? (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 12. Re: regrinding 196 cam? (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 13. Re: ot: cam grind specs? (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 14. Re: 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil? (Bruce Griffis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:16:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> " From: JohnBherna@xxxxxxx
> "
> " I have a 1967 Rebel with 122K miles. Runs fine, smokes very little at
> first
> " start but not after that.
> "
> " What grade of oil should I use, 30 weight, 40 weight, 10-30, 20-40?
>
> spec is 10w30.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay the genius nature
> internet rambler is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:33:15 -0400
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Another 70s AMX
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <48A1830B.3090002@xxxxxxx>
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>
> If a Hornet/Concord/Spirit based AMX or X/GT with six (or even four) and
> four speed shows up around my neck of the woods for a grand or under it's
> liable to end up in my garage. If it were a four cylinder it might end up
> with a 2.3L turbo Ford in it though... I'm thinking I might need to look
> for a Spirit body instead of the 63 or 65 American as a repository for
> that particular piece of hardware. Would need to be a stick car, but no
> engine or trans necessary, just close to SC and a solid body (but a little
> rust I could deal with).
>
> -------------
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:07:44 -0600
> From: James Shadwick <idahoAMX@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> There is another 80 AMX 258/4sp for sale here that has been on Craig's
> list for a while...
> a used car dealer has it.....plus some other AMC's .....
>
>
> http://boise.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=amc&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max
>
> --
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <48A18462.9050102@xxxxxxx>
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>
> John, I wouldn't run anything heavier than 10-40. 10-30 should be fine.
> You don't want to run a "straight weight" as it's a bit thick at start up.
> You could run 20-50 (I'm assuming that's what you meant by 20-40 -- no
> such weight!) because of the mileage, but if you do change the oil to
> 10-30 or 10-40 for cold weather (below 40 or so) driving. If you park it
> in a garage through the winter you should be fine leaving 20-50 in all
> year round.
>
> Smoking at start-up that quits shortly after is a classic sign of bad/worn
> valve stem seals. In your case it's normal, they harden and fall apart
> with age. The seals can be changed by a competent shop without removing
> the heads, or if you've plenty time it's not hard to do yourself. You
> don't need compressed air, though that's what a shop will use. I use a
> piece of cord small enough to fit in the spark plug hole. Run the piston
> down. insert about 3' of cord, then run the piston up to compress the cord
> against the valves, one cylinder at a time. Safer than air, but takes a
> bit longer.
>
> -------------
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:30:24 EDT
> From: JohnBherna@xxxxxxx
>
> I have a 1967 Rebel with 122K miles. Runs fine, smokes very little at
> first
> start but not after that.
>
> What grade of oil should I use, 30 weight, 40 weight, 10-30, 20-40?
>
> --
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:46:33 -0400
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] regrinding 196 cam?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <48A18629.6040500@xxxxxxx>
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>
> Lunati in Tennessee reground a 196 cam for me years ago (before bought by
> Holley). They added 20 degrees duration and 0.10" lift. Got about 20 hp in
> mid range, so it had speed holding/hill pulling/passing power. Nothing you
> can do to make it get up to speed faster, the long stroke/small bore just
> won't do it! But once you get up to 40-45 with that regrind you think
> you're in a newer car!! Crane or Comp will regrind the cam, no problem,
> just call first.
>
> The lifters have to come out if you change the cam. The bottoms need to be
> surface ground flat so the old lifters can be used with the new cam.
> Unless the heads of the lifters are worn bad that's common for old solid
> lifters.
>
> To keep the lifters from falling out remove the side covers and the
> pushrods. Put rubber bands around pairs of lifters to hold them in. You'll
> have to take the pan off to get the lifters out, so this isn't a problem
> when removing the cam (let them fall in pan), just when reinstalling. Cam
> bearings get very little wear, it's common to change cams without changing
> bearings, but do look at them. If you have a bar the bearings can be
> changed without removing the engine, provided you can get to the welch
> plug in the rear of the block...
>
> -------------------
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> while im messin with cams... i decided to yank the cam out of the 196 i
> tore out of my 63 american. it really looks GREAT. very very little wear.
> if any at all actually.
>
> anyway, was wondering if anyone knows if you can send them in to
> comp/crane for a regrind?? i think they can be shaved down. being they are
> solid lifters? if it can be reground, what might be a good grind # for it
> to be a little peppier? ya, i know, that long stroke not going to get
> alot, but maybe make it for more torque, and a little more hp. cant really
> hurt. now that i got a 2bbl intake plate to use on one of the 196's i
> have, could maybe be worth it?
>
> if i was to get it reground and all, is there a way to get that cam
> changed while IN the car? them lifters come out from the bottom, so how
> would a guy do it in the car? was easy for this motor, had it on the
> engine stand, flipped it over, pushed the lifters up, er, down, er to the
> top of the block... lol. and pulled it out. how would it happen in the
> car? or CAN it even happen in the car? thats gay if it cant....
>
> --
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:57:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] regrinding 196 cam?
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <980917.56641.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Daytona Cams will also regrind no-longer-available musclecar cams ...
> http://daytonacams.com
>
> Sincerely,
> Greg Taylor :) <><
> Rochester Hills, MI
> 1989 Jeep Grand Wagoneer "TRMN8R2"
>
> And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this
> life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have
> the Son of God does not have the life. - 1 John 5:11-12
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] regrinding 196 cam?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:46 AM
>
> Lunati in Tennessee reground a 196 cam for me years ago (before bought by
> Holley).
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:56:08 -0400
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] 60 Rambler Wagon FS - Low Miles
> To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: DonMcCPA@xxxxxxx
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> Don is having problems posting to the list, and asked me to forward this:
>> Since I cannot post to the list at the moment, would you be so kind as
>> to put send this out for me? I really need to sell this due to job
>> cutbacks and a baby arriving. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Subject: `60 Rambler Classic Wagon For Sale - Low Miles
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250280251391
>>
>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250280251391>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don McCready
>> /Dayton, Ohio/
>>
>> /
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> /
>>
>
>
> --
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:28:52 -0700
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil?
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <48A1BA44.8070403@xxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> There's also "high mileage" oils, in 10W-30, that are probably a good
> idea. They contain more zinc than other oils, and some contain seal
> softeners (like stool softeners for old cars :-) Costs a bit more than
> the cheapest crap oil, but probably worth it. Oil's not a thing to cheap
> out on.
>
> If you can spare a few hundred $$, and are somewhat handy, you can
> really revive a motor with a valve job, if the rings are any good. If
> compression is OK and reasonably even you can liven it up and get
> another 50K miles or more. On an AMC six it's not a hard job.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:30:41 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Another 70s AMX
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <081220081630.9857.48A1BAB100034CE3000026812216525806CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Yeah, me too.
> Though i'd really like a 64-65 4 dr American with minimal rust and a nice
> crusty patina to keep theives uninterested.
> I want one to do in a driver quality ride.
> No fancy paint, just a solid dependable driveline.
> Next time I'm up at my dad's place I'm going to see if the Comanch his
> neighbor has is still floating around.
> It was somewhere around a 1990 and got rear ended hard. Drove the bed
> into the cab and totalled it out.
> They drove it a couple of blocks home though.
> Yeah, you guessed it. It has a 4cyl stick in it and would make a nice
> complete swap donor. No idea on how many miles are on it, but I know it
> was kept in good running condition as the guy had enough money on hand to
> buy a new vehicle before the insurance had even settled on the truck. Dad
> said they sold it new and he was the original owner.
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
>> If a Hornet/Concord/Spirit based AMX or X/GT with six (or even four) and
>> four
>> speed shows up around my neck of the woods for a grand or under it's
>> liable to
>> end up in my garage. If it were a four cylinder it might end up with a
>> 2.3L
>> turbo Ford in it though... I'm thinking I might need to look for a Spirit
>> body
>> instead of the 63 or 65 American as a repository for that particular
>> piece of
>> hardware. Would need to be a stick car, but no engine or trans necessary,
>> just
>> close to SC and a solid body (but a little rust I could deal with).
>>
>> -------------
>> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:07:44 -0600
>> From: James Shadwick <idahoAMX@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> There is another 80 AMX 258/4sp for sale here that has been on Craig's
>> list for a while...
>> a used car dealer has it.....plus some other AMC's .....
>>
>>
>> http://boise.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=amc&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max
>>
>> --
>> Frank Swygert
>> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>> Magazine (AMC)
>> For all AMC enthusiasts
>> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
>> (free download available!)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:42:33 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Another 70s AMX
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <081220081642.21735.48A1BD7900041EB8000054E72216525806CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> If your going to rebody you need a Spirit or AMX, butif your going to do a
> front clip like John, Elle did, where is he anyway?, then you can use any
> small body for a donor clear back to at least 72. Should work to 70, but
> with the firewall differences Tom noted on his Hornet I'd stay above 71
> just to be sure.
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Garry Nordstrom" <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> With my 79 AMX having bad shock towers, it has been put in storage until
>> I
>> find a donor, so if one comes up in the midwest let me know. Also still
>> looking for aq 68-69 Rebel for my 343.
>> Garry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Shadwick" <idahoAMX@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Another 70s AMX
>>
>>
>> > There is another 80 AMX 258/4sp for sale here that has been on Craig's
>> > list for a while...
>> > a used car dealer has it.....plus some other AMC's .....
>> >
>> >
>> > http://boise.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=amc&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > Joe Fulton wrote:
>> >> Since the Idaho car Jim posted was sold, here's
>> >> another one in LA. A 258 this time, but it has the
>> >> bird on the hood.
>> >>
>> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/785873652.html
>> >>
>> >> Joe Fulton
>> >> Salinas, CA
>> >>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:48:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <200808121648.m7CGmTt15098@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> "
> " There's also "high mileage" oils, in 10W-30, that are probably a good
> " idea. They contain more zinc than other oils, and some contain seal
> " softeners (like stool softeners for old cars :-) Costs a bit more than
> " the cheapest crap oil, but probably worth it. Oil's not a thing to cheap
> " out on.
>
> good point! i forgot about this.
>
> current oils actually have a much-reduced zinc level from the oils of
> even 10 years ago. the old level had been set by sae experimentally
> based on observed wear, and it's the oil our engines were designed
> for. it's not as critical after break-in as at break-in, but as tom
> says, don't be penny-wise and pound-foolish.
>
> zinc levels were 'high' up to api 'sm' and 'ci' ratings; they've been
> cut almost in half because zinc supposedly poisons catalysts and only
> flat-tappet pushrod engines [rare now] need it. maybe this is why
> mopar finally dropped the 4.0, even though the 3.7 has been a problem
> child?
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay the genius nature
> internet rambler is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:52:09 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] regrinding 196 cam?
> To: das24rules@xxxxxxxxx, "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <081220081652.23993.48A1BFB90002B57600005DB92216525806CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> The lifter design came with the rest of the engine!
> Somwhere around 1940ish!
> Back then it was quite common to drop an oilpan to clean out the sump
> every now and again.
> They even spec'd it.
> So the mushroom lifters were no big deal.
> So what if you had to pull the pan!
> You needed to clean the sump when you changed out the cam anyway! Right?
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
>> while im messin with cams... i decided to yank the cam out of the 196 i
>> tore out
>> of my 63 american. it really looks GREAT. very very little wear. if any
>> at all
>> actually.
>>
>> anyway, was wondering if anyone knows if you can send them in to
>> comp/crane for
>> a regrind?? i think they can be shaved down. being they are solid
>> lifters? if it
>> can be reground, what might be a good grind # for it to be a little
>> peppier? ya,
>> i know, that long stroke not going to get alot, but maybe make it for
>> more
>> torque, and a little more hp. cant really hurt. now that i got a 2bbl
>> intake
>> plate to use on one of the 196's i have, could maybe be worth it?
>>
>> if i was to get it reground and all, is there a way to get that cam
>> changed
>> while IN the car? them lifters come out from the bottom, so how would a
>> guy do
>> it in the car? was easy for this motor, had it on the engine stand,
>> flipped it
>> over, pushed the lifters up, er, down, er to the top of the block... lol.
>> and
>> pulled it out. how would it happen in the car? or CAN it even happen in
>> the
>> car? thats gay if it cant....
>>
>> dave stohler
>> my rambler pics@
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/das24rules
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:53:38 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] regrinding 196 cam?
> To: das24rules@xxxxxxxxx, "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <081220081653.28155.48A1C0120004BB3300006DFB2216525806CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Oh, yeah, let us know if you get a cam reground or even what you find out
> if you don't!
> I'm probably going to get one done for the 327 someday before it goes in!
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
>> while im messin with cams... i decided to yank the cam out of the 196 i
>> tore out
>> of my 63 american. it really looks GREAT. very very little wear. if any
>> at all
>> actually.
>>
>> anyway, was wondering if anyone knows if you can send them in to
>> comp/crane for
>> a regrind?? i think they can be shaved down. being they are solid
>> lifters? if it
>> can be reground, what might be a good grind # for it to be a little
>> peppier? ya,
>> i know, that long stroke not going to get alot, but maybe make it for
>> more
>> torque, and a little more hp. cant really hurt. now that i got a 2bbl
>> intake
>> plate to use on one of the 196's i have, could maybe be worth it?
>>
>> if i was to get it reground and all, is there a way to get that cam
>> changed
>> while IN the car? them lifters come out from the bottom, so how would a
>> guy do
>> it in the car? was easy for this motor, had it on the engine stand,
>> flipped it
>> over, pushed the lifters up, er, down, er to the top of the block... lol.
>> and
>> pulled it out. how would it happen in the car? or CAN it even happen in
>> the
>> car? thats gay if it cant....
>>
>> dave stohler
>> my rambler pics@
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/das24rules
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:01:08 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] ot: cam grind specs?
> To: das24rules@xxxxxxxxx, "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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> Rhodes or other bleed down lifters!
> If you can stand the rattle and find a set!
> Hope that monster has an Aluminum intake on it.
> A buddy did one years ago by himself and used an engine hoist to pull it
> and put it back on!!!
> Od course he weighed like 100lbs drippiing wet!
> When I had two good arms I did them by hand. By myself... doubt I'll be
> doing one anytime soon though!
>
> D#&^ned boat. I fell getting off it onto the dock Sunday. Took the skin
> off both knees and one elbow.
> Guess which elbow! AAAArrrgggghhh! Still about 2 notches more painfull
> than it was on Saturday.
> One step forward, two back.
> At least I had enough preservation skills to not try and catch myself
> with my bad arm. That would have been bad indeed. The glancing blow to the
> elbow and side were bad enough.
> There was no way I could redirect my fall either as I was going down on
> the right side, one way or t'other.
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
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> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
>> ok, little off topic, but im lost on trying to find these specs. i bought
>> a 77
>> fraud f250 4x4 a month ago to do all my heavy work. driving it home,
>> noticed the
>> cam is a hot strip cam. got an rv cam ordered today that should be stout.
>> i am
>> trying to find out how to get the specs on the cam, as i beleive it must
>> no
>> longer be made.
>>
>> crane cams
>> fireball 302A
>> 524583
>>
>> anyone know how to find out specs on it?
>>
>> dave stohler
>> my rambler pics@
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/das24rules
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:50:28 -0400
> From: "Bruce Griffis" <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1967 232 six with 122K miles- grade of oil?
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> But that valve job might not be cheap. I'm looking at appr. $470 to
> mill the head, do a valve job and install hardened seats. I need to
> pick up 6 intake and 1 exhaust valve as well. Probably be about $650
> or so.
>
> I'm guessing a valve job by itself would be a lot cheaper, and I'm not
> complaining. Just saying it can add up quickly if the head got warped.
>
> Hey, can I go synthetic now? Or since I haven't changed the main seal
> and the oil pan seal, should I still stick to dino oil?
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>> "
>> " There's also "high mileage" oils, in 10W-30, that are probably a good
>> " idea. They contain more zinc than other oils, and some contain seal
>> " softeners (like stool softeners for old cars :-) Costs a bit more than
>> " the cheapest crap oil, but probably worth it. Oil's not a thing to
>> cheap
>> " out on.
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