Re: [Amc-list] 61 American Deluxe 2 door sedan - electronic ignition
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Re: [Amc-list] 61 American Deluxe 2 door sedan - electronic ignition
- From: Douglas Englin <monzawgn62@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:46:11 -0400 (EDT)
The best prices I have seen for the pertronix kits are from ASE Supply:
Here is a link:
http://www.ase-supply.com/pertronix_s/60.htm
Just e-mail them you make and model and type of ignition (Delco or Autolite)
Douglas Englin
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> 1. 6 cyl drivetrain (amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 2. Re: AMC six, crankshaft bolt pattern? (Tom Jennings)
> 3. Re: Excessive Bounces??? (Tom Jennings)
> 4. Distributor issues (amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 5. Excessive Bounces??? - Excessive Posting ???? (Brien Tourville)
> 6. Re: Distributor issues (Davis Martin)
> 7. rockauto discount 5% ?exp june 24 (Todd Tomason)
> 8. Re: left-braking car/disk brake kit (Frank Swygert)
> 9. 61 American Deluxe 2 door sedan - electronic ignition (Joe Smith)
> 10. Vapor Canister for Jock ... (Greg Taylor)
> 11. Re: Distributor issues (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 12. Re: changing rear brake cylinders (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 13. Re: 61 American Deluxe 2 door sedan - electronic ignition
> (JOE FULTON)
> 14. Re: changing rear brake cylinders (WILLIAM SERCKIE)
> 15. Does anyone want a 81 Spirit GT? (JOE FULTON)
> 16. Re: changing rear brake cylinders (JOE FULTON)
> 17. All AMC Show (Joe Smith)
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>Message: 1
>Date: 24 Apr 2008 05:25:49 -0000
>From: amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Amc-list] 6 cyl drivetrain
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>Use a 72 up block, the new lakewood to chev bell and most any good trans is available w/gm bolt pattern and a multitude of gear ratios are avail. Blowproof clutch & flywheel are MANDATORY w/500 hp! BTW- before lakewoods you had to make a .250 steel enclosure around the bellhousing 360 degrees. Blankets were not made until later and could ONLY be used on automatics.
>Been racing since 1963, seen some clutch explosions, nasty.......
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>amxron
>70 AMX
>70 Hornet
>78 FSJ Wagoneer
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:40:47 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] AMC six, crankshaft bolt pattern?
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0804232240280.25298@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Frank Swygert wrote:
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>> Yep, that's what I said first!
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>Who's on first?
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>Sorry, email threads...
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:45:06 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Excessive Bounces???
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0804232243180.25298@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Jock J JocewJ Jocewicz wrote:
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>> I just received the following message:
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>> Your membership in the mailing list Amc-list has been disabled due to
>> excessive bounces.??????
>>
>> What is going on?
>
>Sounds like spammer activity. Why they'd duplicate list messages
>is beyond me. Maybe there's a link in there that goes somewhere
>crazy.
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>If you get one, turn on SHOW FULL EMAIL HEADERS and forward
>the mess to me...
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>I just checked -- you are in the list just fine.
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>Message: 4
>Date: 24 Apr 2008 06:02:25 -0000
>From: amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Amc-list] Distributor issues
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>MSD6AL yes, Billet dist is waste of $$$. Tried them all over the years. Best bang for the buck, stock dist, curve kit, good points & wires, msd6al, good coil. Put the money in the valve train it makes the hp.
>
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>
>amxron
>70 AMX
>70 Hornet
>78 FSJ Wagoneer
>Fleet&JEEP Mgr
>Orbit/AMC-JEEP 50-1787
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:03:10 -0400
>From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] Excessive Bounces??? - Excessive Posting ????
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>From: Jock J JocewJ Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] Excessive Bounces???
>To:
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>I just received the following message:
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>Your membership in the mailing list Amc-list has been disabled due to
>excessive bounces.??????
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>What is going on?
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>Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx or
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:58:13 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Davis Martin <martin-davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Distributor issues
>To: amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx, "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <211915.67479.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>I can't believe some one thinks points are better then electronic ignition. This person must be in his 60's and uses what he knows.
> The MSD Billet distributor is one of if not the best thing you can get for your ignition. Without proper spark you will not be able to us the HP you are capable of getting.
> Valve trane makes hp? roller rockers give more HP over stock but what else makes HP? Oversimplified,Cams tell the engine where to put the HP not make HP.
> points were good technology in the 70's I think we are beyont that now. You wouldn't find anyone with a 500 HP anything running points these days.
>
>
>amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> MSD6AL yes, Billet dist is waste of $$$. Tried them all over the years. Best bang for the buck, stock dist, curve kit, good points & wires, msd6al, good coil. Put the money in the valve train it makes the hp.
>
>
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>amxron
>70 AMX
>70 Hornet
>78 FSJ Wagoneer
>Fleet&JEEP Mgr
>Orbit/AMC-JEEP 50-1787
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>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:04:13 -0500
>From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] rockauto discount 5% ?exp june 24
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:58:52 -0400
>From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] left-braking car/disk brake kit
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>See, that's why I think the guy who reported that the seal didn't work right for his 68 or so American either didn't have the right seal (you use an early Mustang seal in the mid 90s Ranger rotor, NOT the Ranger seal) or didn't have the right rotors. I pointed out what seal he needed and never heard back from him. If a 74 Gremlin spindle works then a 68 or so American spindle should. I can't tell the difference between a 63 American and Classic drum brake spindle, but I haven't mounted a Ranger rotor on either. I do know the Scarebird kit works on the 63-66 Classic spindle though, a fellow recently installed it on one. He did have to shim the caliper a bit to get it just right, but said it was nothing a couple washers didn't fix.
>
>--------------
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:46:23 -0600
>From: James Shadwick <idahoAMX@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>I just install the Scarebird brackets on my 69 AMX using the drum brake
>spindles from my 74 Gremlin.....bought the rest of the parts at my local
>CARQUEST parts house.....no problem with fitment and they work really
>good..........would like to see a couple of minor changes.....
>
>--
>Frank Swygert
>Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>Magazine (AMC)
>For all AMC enthusiasts
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>(free download available!)
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Joe Smith <know_ware@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] 61 American Deluxe 2 door sedan - electronic
> ignition
>To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <177329.53301.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>What is the best and most affordable electronic ignition for a 1961 L head??
>Thanks,
>Joe
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] Vapor Canister for Jock ...
>To: AMC-LIST <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Jock, it's not mine .... scroll down ... $10 ....
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> http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=37371&highlight=amc
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:10:52 +0000
>From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Distributor issues
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID:
> <042420081410.21425.481094EC000C84FA000053B12215593414CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Points triggering an MSD is different from them firing a coil directly.
>But, that being said I would not install that system.
>point bounce issues will likely come into play at higher rpm ranges.
>Maybe not.
>In reality its a personal choice on his part.
>Same as running drum brakes when there is not any real reason to put the money into repairing a set anymore.
>
>First two things to go on a car I do.
>Front drums
>points
>
>But, hey, that's just me.
>
>--
>Mark Price
>Morgantown, WV
>1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
>2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
>" Chronic Pain Hurts"
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> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Davis Martin <martin-davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> I can't believe some one thinks points are better then electronic ignition. This
>> person must be in his 60's and uses what he knows.
>> The MSD Billet distributor is one of if not the best thing you can get for
>> your ignition. Without proper spark you will not be able to us the HP you are
>> capable of getting.
>> Valve trane makes hp? roller rockers give more HP over stock but what else
>> makes HP? Oversimplified,Cams tell the engine where to put the HP not make HP.
>> points were good technology in the 70's I think we are beyont that now. You
>> wouldn't find anyone with a 500 HP anything running points these days.
>>
>>
>> amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> MSD6AL yes, Billet dist is waste of $$$. Tried them all over the years. Best
>> bang for the buck, stock dist, curve kit, good points & wires, msd6al, good
>> coil. Put the money in the valve train it makes the hp.
>>
>>
>>
>> amxron
>> 70 AMX
>> 70 Hornet
>> 78 FSJ Wagoneer
>> Fleet&JEEP Mgr
>> Orbit/AMC-JEEP 50-1787
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>Message: 12
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:16:59 +0000
>From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] changing rear brake cylinders
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID:
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>
>One side at a time.
>use the other side as a "mirror" if you get confused.
>PB blaster on the line nut, be gentle, hope it comes loose.
>Use a Line wrench!
>
>Double check the replacement cylinders to make sure they match the ones removed.
>pay attention to the bore size as some people have gotten different sized cylinders and that screws up the rear brake bias.
>
>--
>Mark Price
>Morgantown, WV
>1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
>2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
>" Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Jayson Helenske" <rebel67@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> I'm about to change out my rear brake cylinders with replacements, not
>> rebuilding. I have the tech service manual for my 67 Rebel, but want to know if
>> there are any 'tricks' to make the replacements successful without any unknowns.
>> Thanks gang! Jayson Helenske
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>Message: 13
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 61 American Deluxe 2 door sedan - electronic
> ignition
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <726322.11136.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>I'd say the pertronix is the easiest and most common
>swap on the old Delco distributors. You can add a
>more powerful coil too.
>
>An MSD box is another option though, like Mark
>mentioned, and your points distributor would be
>running very low current to just trigger the MSD box.
>If the distributor is in good shape (bushings, cent
>advance, etc.) it would work very well and your points
>would last forever.
>
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, CA
>--- Joe Smith <know_ware@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> What is the best and most affordable electronic
>> ignition for a 1961 L head??
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
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>Message: 14
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
>From: WILLIAM SERCKIE <realtorbill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] changing rear brake cylinders
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <286375.2117.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>also, if you are able, take a digital picture and enlage it for a better guide
>
>James Shadwick <idahoAMX@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Jayson...........
>
>Take your time and do them one at a time.....so you have the other side
>for a reference......
>
>'tricks' to make the replacements successful without any unknowns.
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>Message: 15
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] Does anyone want a 81 Spirit GT?
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <827488.92165.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>I bought the car sight unseen from another hobbyist.
>CA car, no rust, faded paint and sunbaked interior.
>It's located north of Sacramento, CA. I bought it to
>save it from being parted out. 258/auto.
>
>$500 and it's yours. I have a clear title. I want
>this car instead;
>
>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/652132947.html
>
>Please stop me before I buy another one.
>
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, CA
>
>
>
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>Message: 16
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] changing rear brake cylinders
>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <847937.95781.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>--- WILLIAM SERCKIE <realtorbill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> also, if you are able, take a digital picture and
>> enlage it for a better guide
>>
>
>Here in CA we call that a Mexican blueprint. It does
>work.
>
>(I apologize if I have offended anyone with Hispanic
>sympathies, relatives, or in any other way who is
>offended by my remark above.)
>
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, Ca
>
>
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>Message: 17
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Joe Smith <know_ware@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Amc-list] All AMC Show
>To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <808929.73805.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>I have been talking with the AMX guys about this all AMC?show.
>http://www.socalamxcarshow.info/
>It is open to ALL Nash, Hudson, Metropolitan,?Rambler.....?Everyone in the AMC family and closet. ?
>My 63 and I are going, and we (Ramble and I) want every possible Rambler to show up.? Wouldn't it be great if the Ramblers out-numbered the AMXes?
>
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