Re: [Amc-list] Late-model AMC Radiator Hose Problem

["Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)" <george.graham@xxxxxx>]

The Gates hose that does not fit is a 21203.  Note again that the pic in
the Gates catalog shows a version that IS long enough -- the actual hose
you get does not match the pic!! 

The Dayco hose that still fits is 71384 (PartsAmerica "Drive-Rite" brand
number is B71384).

That NAPA 7914 hose photo looks OK in their on-line catalog, but I
haven't seen one in person yet to know if it actually matches the photo.

The length going forward seems OK on all of these hoses (I had to
shorten that leg a bit to fit it to my Grem).  It's the thermostat leg
that's bogus.

George G.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jennings [mailto:tomj@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:08 PM
To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late-model AMC Radiator Hose Problem

I dunno if it's parts-number-consolidation (probably) but I've had to
fiddle radiator hoses for years. Then again nothing I have is stock.
Here's what I have in my spreadsheet:


63 Classic	Radiator hose, lower	Gates/NAPA 7310, 1.5" x 1.75" x
19.25", FLEX DOES NOT FIT
63 Classic	Radiator hose, upper	Gates/NAPA 7717 FLEX DOES NOT
FIT	(B) 70471cs (needs cutting) non-A/C!

70 Hornet	Radiator hose, lower	NAPA 7651, 60977 (Gates?) fits
bigger 3-row	83 motor, should fit all six
70 Hornet	Radiator hose, upper	NAPA 7914	83 motor, should
fit all six

Got part numbers on the good Dayco and bad gates/goodyear?


There are different hoses for the radiator-front vs. radiator-back
brackets -- some push the radiator forward of the skin and some towards
the back (01 chassis generally forward).

(My 63 classic has a 70 232; the 70 hornet has an 83 258.)


And what's with those flex hose pieces of crap?! They don't work at all!
There are tight 90's on the AMC hoses that must be molded.



On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Frank Swygert wrote:

> Hope you told them the Dayco fits right! That ought to get them
moving!! I'ts pretty darned easy to make a hose a bit longer, and easy
to trim a little if too long on one end for some models. That might be
the approach Dayco took -- some models may take the shorter hose. Dayco
may have picked the longer hose on purpose, but then again they may have
got lucky...
>
> In any case, thanks a lot for the heads up, I'll look for a Dayco next
time!
>
> --------------
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:57:05 -0400
> From: "Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)" <george.graham@xxxxxx>
>
> Seems all the usual brand's catalogs
> list the same hose for pretty much all '77-and-up AMC 6-cylinder 
> passenger cars.  However, hoses sold under the Gates and Goodyear 
> brand are too short (by about 1.5 inches) on the
> thermostat end to fit properly (or at all, for that matter).   Wonder
if
> this is due to one of those pesky "part number consolidation" things
> pushed by the Gates bean counters.   I did send Gates the info on my
> problem; we'll see if I get any reply.
>
> Good news is that the Dayco brand hoses still fit OK (for now,
anyway).
> Dayco hoses are also sold by PartsAmerica/Advance Auto under their 
> "Drive-Rite" brand.
>
>

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