Re: [Amc-list] T96, T14 clutch -- final numbers

[adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)]

" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" OK, I just went out with calipers, tape measure and pad, and
" measured T96's and T14.
" 
" 
" Transmissions:
" 		input spline	input nose to flat	over all length
" 
" T96+OD		10T x 1.00"	approx. 7 1/8"		approx. 19 3/4"
" T96+OD+TT	10T x 1.00"	approx. 7 1/8"		approx. 20"
" T14 non-OD	10T x 1.00"	approx. 7 1/8"		approx. 23 5/8"
" T150+OD		10T x 1.055"	(didn't measure)	approx. 28"

you measured the input shaft diameters, right?  i've always thought of
the t96 and t14 as 10 x 15/16" spline and i'm sure i learned it
somewhere authoritative.  could that be the spline 'pitch diameter'?

" Clutch disc:
" 
" 8.5" disc	10T x 1.111"
" 9.25" disc	10T x 1.110"
" 
" Bell housings:
" 
" The T14 will NOT mate to a T96 bellhousing and vice versa. And
" I have a multi-drilled pre-72 six bell, and no holes line up
" with the T96.

i've got a t14 in my '68 199 rambler right now, and it fitted the bell
and clutch just fine.  and the tailshaft was ~2" short of where the
outgoing t96's landed.

are you sure what you have -is- a [car, not jeep] t14 and not the
nearly identical-appearing t86/t90?  main case length is 8" for a t86,
about 8.7" for a t14.  do you know what year your t14 is?  what's the
output spline, coarse [like t96] or fine [like tf904]?

" My conclusion: The AMC clutch is apparently unique.

the clutch numbers from your other post also match studebaker, and the
8 1/2" disk was also used by volvo [!!].  this is from a perfection
pdf catalog

try disk rcf658 and pp ca1676 for a 9 1/8" clutch.

the pp was also used by stude, gm, kaiser willys, and mopar, though of
course with different disks [except stude!], and mopar and stude also
used the same throwout bearing as the 196.  this is what made me think
the mopar 10" hd pp [perfection ca1525] would work on a 196, with the
amc 10" hd disk [perfection rcf446, which incidentally cross-matches
to '50s mopar and ford apps].
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Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
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