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Thanks! I have the old style with the round resivoir on it, if they use the 
same bracket I'll just buy the new style.
Troy
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>   1. Re: New American Motors Corporation (Greg Taylor)
>   2. Re: Chevy power steering pump (Todd Tomason)
>   3. Re: car on eBay (electric Concord) (Frank Swygert)
>   4. Re: Camshaft (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>   5. Re: gas sender ohms (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>   6. Re: Camshaft (Sandwich Maker)
>   7. Re: Chevy power steering pump (Jim Blair)
>   8. Re: The "NEW" amc Corp (acskln)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:20:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] New American Motors Corporation
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> That's exactly the case.  Just submit new trademark application.
>
>  Greg :)  <><
>
> Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  I would assume they paid nothing. Since Chrysler let them expire, they 
> would
> have paid just the registration fees.
>
> Todd
>
> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 16:41, Tom Jennings wrote:
>> I think the whole thing is just a bit weird!!
>>
>> I wonder how much they paid for it... assuming s/he own all
>> that brand stuff!
>>
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:21:27 -0600
> From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Chevy power steering pump
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sorry.  Hit send too soon.
>
> You should already have one.  The actual brand of the pump is Saginaw.
> (Wholly owned subsidiary of GM, I believe.)  You have a 71 Javelin, right?
> AMC used Eaton pumps up through 69 or 70, then switched to Saginaw.  The
> early Saginaw pumps had more of a round tank, instead of the tear-drop 
> style
> that you're used to seeing.  What does the cap look like?  Is it the 
> standard
> twist-off cap with a little dipstick attached?  If so, you probably have 
> an
> older Saginaw.  The bracket should fit fine.  I switched one a couple of
> years ago on a 72 Javelin.  (The motor came from a 71 Matador.)  If you 
> want,
> the old pump is in the basement and I can snap a couple pictures for
> comparison.
>
> Later,
>
> Todd
>
> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 19:42, mariclairemccall@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> I noticed on one of the photos you guys sent me for installing my
>> alternator bracket that there was what looked like a Chevy power steering
>> pump on the motor. What is involved in putting a Chevy power steering 
>> pump
>> on, does it just bolt on, or require some bracket alteration? Changing 
>> over
>> would be a big price cut for replacement.
>>
>> Also thanks to everyone for the replies on my sending unit question.
>>
>> Troy
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:37:51 -0500
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] car on eBay (electric Concord)
> To: gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx, AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <474EC0AF.9090801@xxxxxxx>
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> Garry, I know you're a bit sensitive on this, but Jon hasn't asked 
> anything that I wouldn't have asked. You don't state in the auction that 
> the miles are documented. I would ask if you were sure it's 491 miles 
> instead of 100,491 miles on a car of this age also (well, maybe not since 
> I have "known" you from the list over the last few years). 491 miles IS a 
> bit unusual, even for an electric car (home or factory conversion). You'd 
> have had fewer questions about mileage if it had 10,491 on it! That or put 
> in the auction that you have proof of the mileage (then you'd have 
> questions as to what kind of proof though!!). Try to put yourself in the 
> buyer's shoes -- you're dealing with a practically unknown (today) car and 
> conversion company, and an unknown seller in another state.
>
> In the pic showing the motor and someone holding the battery tray there 
> appears to be batteries present. Are they 6, 8, or 12V? Any size numbers 
> on one of the batteries? In an electric car of this vintage they are most 
> likely 6 or 8 volt golf cart batteries. Of course you can tell voltage by 
> number of cells -- 2V for every cell (I can't see them clearly in the 
> photo, but appears to be four cells per battery indicating 8V). If I were 
> interested in the car I'd like to get an idea of what batteries would cost 
> also. 24 batteries at $75 or so each is $1800 -- not cheap! But it's still 
> a bargain for an electric at your starting bid price -- under $4500 total. 
> Some more work needs to be done, but much cheaper than the average 
> conversion. Many electric car types want to create their own conversion 
> though.
>
> Showing a photo of the emissions sticker probably wasn't a good idea. This 
> brings up the questions about a home conversion -- it obviously came from 
> the AMC factory with a gasoline engine.
>
> I know a little about the history of Solargen. The sticker makes it 
> obvious that they didn't have any special deal with AMC to provide cars --  
> they bought them complete with engines then converted at their facility, 
> probably selling the original engine and trans back to a  local dealer or 
> some salvage facility. AMC would have required a large order to specially 
> prepare cars, even deleting major expensive components. For a dozen cars 
> they couldn't have dropped much off the price even without an engine and 
> trans -- it still has to go through the same assembly line and would 
> require more handling near the end and for loading/unloading as it had no 
> power source. It was probably cheaper to buy a few of the cars direct from 
> the factory through a fleet sales type deal than have them made with no 
> engine/trans.
>
>
> -------------------
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:06:12 -0600
> From: "Garry Nordstrom" <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] car on eBay
> To: "Jon Dressen" <jon.dressen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> How dare you think that it has  more miles than stated, this is the 
> original as stated, this is one of a kind that has the original  miles as 
> stated on the title, were are very honest and very devoted to AMC.
> They had foresight before many others, this has no rust and yes the 
> headliner is sagging, but some spray glue, it's done.
> The only reason this car is for sale is that I encountered some bad 
> medical problems, or it would be done, and now have overcome them and have 
> the energy to complete
> The electical  was installed at 0 miles by solargen.  This according to 
> owners of salorgen was a demo car used in Penn, still has the sticker.
>
> I am honesty thinking of just keeping it, and pulling the listing.  It has 
> value  in that it is the only true electrical car by AMC and Solargen.  To 
> those good luck in finding such a car.
> Garry.
>
> P.S.  don't mean to harsh, but that amoung other comments (about 100)  has 
> really  made me rethink about selling it.  It is an educational tool, as 
> well as historical.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Jon Dressen
>  To: gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:34 PM
>  Subject: car on eBay
>
>
>  hi,
>  I saw your AMC posted on line and was wondering if you knew when it was 
> last used or licensed and on the road? does the odometer show just 5 
> digits meaning that it turned over the 100,000 mile mark or someone may 
> have turned back the gage when installing the electric motor.
>  Is the rust on the body surface rust is has it rusted through? Looks like 
> the headliner might be sagging too?
>  Any idea what type of batteries it had used?
>  I am in Minneapolis and could call if it is more convenient.
>  thanks
>  Jon
>
> -- 
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:21:24 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <112920071421.25967.474ECAE40006EA4A0000656F2214756402CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> Matt Haas? or Frank?
> I believe one of them has a handle on it.
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
>> I tried but it indicates I've been on the site before, that my email addy 
>> is
>> already taken. I don't remember my password so I ask for a new one. Then 
>> it says
>> my email _isn't_ in the system.
>>
>> sigh
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> Quoting Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>:
>>
>> > -- Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Where should I send it that everyone can see?
>> >
>> > AMCyclopedia.org...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ken Ames
>> > >
>> > > 39Master85w.partscar,67Marlin,68AMX,70Machine,73Matador2drht,73Hornet4dsd,
>> > > 73-74-75-76GremlinXs,75PacerX,76Hornet2dsd,77Matadorcpe,2-77AMXs,78AMX,
>> > > 78Gremlin,78GremlinGT,79Concordhb,79PacerDL8,2-79AMXs,2-80AMXs,
>> > > 2-80SpiritDL,80Eagle4dsdn,2-81SX4s,81SpiritGT,81Concord4dsd,82Eaglesw,
>> > > 2-85Eaglesw,2-80J20,85J10,88Eaglesw,2-89Sentra4dsd   (41)
>> > >
>> > > AMCA = http://clubs.hemmings.com/amcalberta/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Quoting Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>> > >> I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>> > >> And I'm looking for new camshaft.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:28:40 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] gas sender ohms
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <112920071428.14273.474ECC980009A8AF000037C12214756402CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> I run the chrysler spec autometer gauge in my American.
> Seems to be pretty close to right.
> IIRC, it is 12 ohm empty?
> I thought Ford was different?
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: amxron <amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Stewart-Warner catalog shows GM,Ford and AMC all different ohm ranges. 
>> Also I
>> don't completely trust magazine writers .
>> I'd check w/ a meter first.
>> amxron
>> 70 AMX
>> 70 Hornet
>> 78 FSJ Wagoneer
>> Fleet&JEEP Mgr
>> Orbit/AMC-JEEP 50-1787
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:53:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <200711291653.lATGrau15382@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> " From: Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> "
> "
> " I'm looking for stock cam.
> " 199, 232 and 258 use the same camshaft?
>
> yes.
>
> i haven't seen ken's data, but afaik there are at least 3 different
> cams for the sixes, not including the 4.0's which would fit but lack
> fuel pump lobes.
>
> in reverse order:
> '81-'90 258/4.2
> '76-'80 2bbl 258
> all other '64-'79 199-232-258
>
> the first two both have durations in the upper 250s, but slightly
> different.  there may be more than one cam in the 'all other' line,
> but i'm fairly sure there was only one in the '60s, with a 244 degree
> duration.  this would be your cam.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
> internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:36:17 -0800
> From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Chevy power steering pump
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <BAY114-W507C48AC48C1263F6F8BFAC700@xxxxxxx>
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> I didn't see the photos, so I'm going to assume you mean a Saginaw pump?
> (They sold pumps and boxes to everyone building cars in the US at one 
> point
> or another) Jeeps use them as well as AMC cars.
>
>
> From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Chevy power steering pump
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <200711290712.37736.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 19:42, mariclairemccall@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> I noticed on one of the photos you guys sent me for installing my
>> alternator bracket that there was what looked like a Chevy power steering
>> pump on the motor. What is involved in putting a Chevy power steering 
>> pump
>> on, does it just bolt on, or require some bracket alteration? Changing 
>> over
>> would be a big price cut for replacement.
>>
>> Also thanks to everyone for the replies on my sending unit question.
>>
>> Troy
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:15:57 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: acskln <acskln@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] The "NEW" amc Corp
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> info on it:
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>   P.O. Box 900544
>   Palmdale, CA 93590
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>>   1. Re: New American Motors Corporation (Tom Jennings)
>>   2. Re: New American Motors Corporation (Keith Evenson)
>>   3. Camshaft (Arnaldo Mademilia)
>>   4. Chevy power steering pump (mariclairemccall@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
>>   5. Re: Camshaft (Ken Ames)
>>   6. Re: Camshaft (Matt Haas)
>>   7. Re: Camshaft (Arnaldo Mademilia)
>>   8. Re: Camshaft for 232 (Greg Taylor)
>>   9. The 'NEW' amc corporation (Brien Tourville)
>>  10. Re: Camshaft (Tom Jennings)
>>  11. The NEW AMC loses SX4 to SuZUKi- Blahst! (Jesse)
>>  12. gas sender ohms (amxron)
>>  13. Re: Camshaft (Ken Ames)
>>  14. Re: sending unit question (Frank Swygert)
>>  15. Re: New American Motors Corporation (Todd Tomason)
>>  16. Re: Chevy power steering pump (Todd Tomason)
>>
>>
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:41:46 -0800
>>From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] New American Motors Corporation
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <5FBD303659EFEE2ABEB63282@qx>
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>>I think the whole thing is just a bit weird!!
>>
>>I wonder how much they paid for it... assuming s/he own all
>>that brand stuff!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:55:55 -0600
>>From: Keith Evenson <epd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] New American Motors Corporation
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <4FB99A65-4D8A-4ABD-921A-F7D0FF657F57@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>>>
>>I agree with you Tom, it seems kinda strange to me too.
>>
>>Good Luck, Auto
>>
>>55 Chevy Gasser
>>68 AMX
>>70 Javelin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Nov 28, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Tom Jennings wrote:
>>
>>> I think the whole thing is just a bit weird!!
>>>
>>> I wonder how much they paid for it... assuming s/he own all
>>> that brand stuff!
>>>
>>>
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>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:01:42 +0000
>>From: Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [Amc-list] Camshaft
>>To: AMC-list <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <BAY142-W20B1C7444D68DE0722025A3700@xxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>
>>Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>>I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>>And I'm looking for new camshaft.
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:42:16 -0700
>>From: <mariclairemccall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [Amc-list] Chevy power steering pump
>>To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <003201c83229$13c0ceb0$7da8f004@home>
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>>I noticed on one of the photos you guys sent me for installing my 
>>alternator bracket that there was what looked like a Chevy power steering 
>>pump on the motor. What is involved in putting a Chevy power steering pump 
>>on, does it just bolt on, or require some bracket alteration? Changing 
>>over would be a big price cut for replacement.
>>
>>Also thanks to everyone for the replies on my sending unit question.
>>
>>Troy
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>>Message: 5
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:46:18 -0700
>>From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <1196300778.474e19eaba018@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>>I have a small spreadsheet of the different cams - duration, etc.
>>
>>Where should I send it that everyone can see?
>>
>>
>>Ken Ames
>>
>>39Master85w.partscar,67Marlin,68AMX,70Machine,73Matador2drht,73Hornet4dsd,
>>73-74-75-76GremlinXs,75PacerX,76Hornet2dsd,77Matadorcpe,2-77AMXs,78AMX,
>>78Gremlin,78GremlinGT,79Concordhb,79PacerDL8,2-79AMXs,2-80AMXs,
>>2-80SpiritDL,80Eagle4dsdn,2-81SX4s,81SpiritGT,81Concord4dsd,82Eaglesw,
>>2-85Eaglesw,2-80J20,85J10,88Eaglesw,2-89Sentra4dsd   (41)
>>
>>AMCA = http://clubs.hemmings.com/amcalberta/
>>
>>
>>
>>Quoting Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>>
>>> Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>>> I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>>> And I'm looking for new camshaft.
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>>Message: 6
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:55:32 -0500
>>From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <474E1C14.6050805@xxxxxxx>
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>>Camshaft grinds changed over time for various reasons but it's not a
>>problem getting new ones. You can get stock ones sold by brands such as
>>TRW and Sealed Power and you can get a more performance oriented cam
>>from places like Iskenderian (http://www.iskycams.com). Make sure you
>>replace the lifters at the same time.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>Arnaldo Mademilia wrote:
>>> Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>>> I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>>> And I'm looking for new camshaft.
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>>-- 
>>mhaas@xxxxxxx
>>Cincinnati, OH
>>http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>>1967 Rambler American wagon
>>1968 Rambler American sedan
>>=================================================================
>>According to a February 2003 survey of Internet holdouts released
>>by UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
>>not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
>>
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>>Message: 7
>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:03:59 +0000
>>From: Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <BAY142-W2983D247C07A8DE5E827AFA3700@xxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>
>>I'm looking for stock cam.
>>199,232 and 258 use the same camshaft?> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 
>>20:55:32 -0500> From: mhaas@xxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: 
>>Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft> > Camshaft grinds changed over time for various 
>>reasons but it's not a > problem getting new ones. You can get stock ones 
>>sold by brands such as > TRW and Sealed Power and you can get a more 
>>performance oriented cam > from places like Iskenderian 
>>(http://www.iskycams.com). Make sure you > replace the lifters at the same 
>>time.> > Matt> > Arnaldo Mademilia wrote:> > Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. 
>>engine use the same camshaft?> > I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID 
>>engine.> > And I'm looking for new camshaft.> > 
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>> mhaas@xxxxxxx> Cincinnati, OH> http://www.mattsoldcars.com> 1967 Rambler 
>> American wagon> 1968 Rambler American sedan> 
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>>Message: 8
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:34:40 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft for 232
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <960158.54595.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>If you're looking for more performance then .... 
>>www.cliffordperformance.com
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>  Greg Taylor :)  <><
>>
>>
>>Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>>I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>>And I'm looking for new camshaft.
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>>Message: 9
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:50:06 -0500
>>From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [Amc-list] The 'NEW' amc corporation
>>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Message-ID: <474E28DE.3010703@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>These people take Batteries & 'Rebadge' them.
>>
>>They have been doing this for years having
>>gotten no further with any developments.
>>
>>Scratch 'n Sniff folks.
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
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>>Message: 10
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:54:38 -0800
>>From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <B498138F40C17C0E7B57DABA@qx>
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>>-- Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Where should I send it that everyone can see?
>>
>>AMCyclopedia.org...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ken Ames
>>>
>>> 39Master85w.partscar,67Marlin,68AMX,70Machine,73Matador2drht,73Hornet4dsd,
>>> 73-74-75-76GremlinXs,75PacerX,76Hornet2dsd,77Matadorcpe,2-77AMXs,78AMX,
>>> 78Gremlin,78GremlinGT,79Concordhb,79PacerDL8,2-79AMXs,2-80AMXs,
>>> 2-80SpiritDL,80Eagle4dsdn,2-81SX4s,81SpiritGT,81Concord4dsd,82Eaglesw,
>>> 2-85Eaglesw,2-80J20,85J10,88Eaglesw,2-89Sentra4dsd   (41)
>>>
>>> AMCA = http://clubs.hemmings.com/amcalberta/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>>>> I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>>>> And I'm looking for new camshaft.
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>Message: 11
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:48:28 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [Amc-list] The NEW AMC loses SX4 to SuZUKi- Blahst!
>>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Message-ID: <452190.3791.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>>
>>SO THAT's why the SX4 name is now used for the Suzuki
>>crossover.  I have been wondering about that...  SX4
>>is such a cool name too!
>>
>>Have a great week,
>>
>>Jesse
>>
>>
>> 
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>>Message: 12
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:41:01 -0600
>>From: amxron <amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [Amc-list] gas sender ohms
>>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Message-ID: <936bd0db1ab850974d3cbbd118a3d340@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>>Stewart-Warner catalog shows GM,Ford and AMC all different ohm ranges. 
>>Also I don't completely trust magazine writers .
>>I'd check w/ a meter first.
>>amxron
>>70 AMX
>>70 Hornet
>>78 FSJ Wagoneer
>>Fleet&JEEP Mgr
>>Orbit/AMC-JEEP 50-1787
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Message: 13
>>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:34:00 -0700
>>From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Camshaft
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <1196318040.474e5d58c39d9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>I tried but it indicates I've been on the site before, that my email addy 
>>is
>>already taken. I don't remember my password so I ask for a new one. Then 
>>it says
>>my email _isn't_ in the system.
>>
>>sigh
>>
>>Ken
>>
>>
>>Quoting Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>:
>>
>>> -- Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Where should I send it that everyone can see?
>>>
>>> AMCyclopedia.org...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ken Ames
>>> >
>>> > 39Master85w.partscar,67Marlin,68AMX,70Machine,73Matador2drht,73Hornet4dsd,
>>> > 73-74-75-76GremlinXs,75PacerX,76Hornet2dsd,77Matadorcpe,2-77AMXs,78AMX,
>>> > 78Gremlin,78GremlinGT,79Concordhb,79PacerDL8,2-79AMXs,2-80AMXs,
>>> > 2-80SpiritDL,80Eagle4dsdn,2-81SX4s,81SpiritGT,81Concord4dsd,82Eaglesw,
>>> > 2-85Eaglesw,2-80J20,85J10,88Eaglesw,2-89Sentra4dsd   (41)
>>> >
>>> > AMCA = http://clubs.hemmings.com/amcalberta/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Quoting Arnaldo Mademilia <turbofish53@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Those all AMC inline 6 Cyl. engine use the same camshaft?
>>> >> I've a 1966 Rambler Classic with 232CID engine.
>>> >> And I'm looking for new camshaft.
>>> >> _________________________________________________________________
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>>Message: 14
>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:07:40 -0500
>>From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] sending unit question
>>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Message-ID: <474EB99C.9040409@xxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>Most AMC specific vendors have the unit you need. American Performance 
>>Products (www.amclives.com), Kennedy American (www.kennedyamerican.com), 
>>and American Parts Depot (www.americanpartsdepot.com), and Galvin's 
>>(www.ramblerparts.com) all have them for around $100 ready to drop in.
>>
>>As Joe stated, the ohm range is the same as Ford. It's like this from the 
>>50's all the way through about 1975. A Mustang unit might fit, "it 
>>depends". The ohm range is correct, but the round part that fits the tank 
>>may be a different size. The pickup tube will likely be bent differently 
>>as well as the float arm. Either of those can be  "fixed" with a bit of 
>>work. I've bought universal adjustable sending units from JC Whitney or 
>>boating supply stores with the 10-75 ohm units. Anywhere within a couple 
>>ohms is fine, they aren't that accurate! Officially, the AMC unit is 9-73 
>>ohms, with +/- 1 ohm on the low end, +/- 12 ohms on the high end -- so it 
>>could be listed by others as 8-10 ohms on the low side (which is actually 
>>FULL or HOT) and 61-85 ohms on the high end (actually EMPTY or COLD). One 
>>listed in a boat catalog as 10-61 ohms works just as good as one listed in 
>>JCW as 9-75 ohms. I seem to recall that there is a +/- 2% variance at any 
>>specific reading, which would make it a
> c
>> curate to about double the width of the needle.
>>
>>To use a universal type you need to have an original unit in good physical 
>>condition. The float arm and electrical part can be bad, but the tube and 
>>round base plate must be good. Pry the cover off the electrical unit and 
>>disassemble it, leaving just a small flat piece of metal on the tube. Take 
>>the electric unit off the adjustable replacement -- there should be two 
>>screws holding it on. Place the new unit on the original base plate. You 
>>may have to drill a hole, but I have usually been able to "clamp" it on by 
>>putting one screw in the arm slot and the other near the top with the 
>>plate between the edge of the head of the top screw and the body of the 
>>replacement unit. Both screws can be fastened this way, just make sure 
>>they are tight. Remove the screw or stud that the original sending unit 
>>wire fastened to. The lower end (tank side of plate) is usually riveted 
>>in. Drill the rivet head and remove the stud and insulator. Keep the 
>>insulator and run a correct size screw through
>
>> the hole. The screw needs to be a size that the sending unit wire will 
>> slip onto, or you can cut the push-on end off the wire and crimp on an 
>> eye terminal (not recommended, it makes tank removal harder -- a push 
>> together connection can be used in the wire under the car near the tank 
>> though). Now it's just a matter of bending the float arm so it will 
>> register correctly. The arms are usually wire with a bend for the float. 
>> Cut it off shorter and/or bend as needed.
>>
>>Don't forget to replace the "sock" pickup filter! A 60's Mustang unit 
>>works perfectly, or remove the original filter leaving the rubber end, and 
>>cut a fuel pump mounted sock of similar diameter off. Slide it over the 
>>rubber end and secure with a piece of wire. It won't rust inside the tank! 
>>A nylon zip tie MIGHT work, but isn't recommended. I don't know how long 
>>one would last immersed in gasoline.
>>
>>----------------
>>Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:49:17 -0700
>>From: <mariclairemccall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>1971 AMC Javelin SST, 304 Engine
>>I removed my gas tank yesterday and dropped it at a radiator shop to be 
>>cleaned and sealed. The gas inside was like turpentine! I don't want to 
>>put the original sending unit back in because it will just fail. Auto 
>>parts store said it is discontinued. Anyone know where I can get a new one 
>>or is there another model that will fit, a jeep maybe?
>>
>>-- 
>>Frank Swygert
>>Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>>Magazine (AMC)
>>For all AMC enthusiasts
>>http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
>>(free download available!)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 15
>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:10:40 -0600
>>From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] New American Motors Corporation
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <200711290710.41012.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>I would assume they paid nothing.  Since Chrysler let them expire, they 
>>would
>>have paid just the registration fees.
>>
>>Todd
>>
>>On Wednesday 28 November 2007 16:41, Tom Jennings wrote:
>>> I think the whole thing is just a bit weird!!
>>>
>>> I wonder how much they paid for it... assuming s/he own all
>>> that brand stuff!
>>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 16
>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:12:37 -0600
>>From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Chevy power steering pump
>>To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Message-ID: <200711290712.37736.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>On Wednesday 28 November 2007 19:42, mariclairemccall@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> I noticed on one of the photos you guys sent me for installing my
>>> alternator bracket that there was what looked like a Chevy power 
>>> steering
>>> pump on the motor. What is involved in putting a Chevy power steering 
>>> pump
>>> on, does it just bolt on, or require some bracket alteration? Changing 
>>> over
>>> would be a big price cut for replacement.
>>>
>>> Also thanks to everyone for the replies on my sending unit question.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>
>>
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