Re: [Amc-list] why "upgrade"?

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Haven't taped anything yet.
It has repro door seals in it.
It's a sedan.
Noise appears to be coming directly from the vent windo area. I figure since the door seals are still in good chape it is likely the wing seals.
  I'll have to look at it better next time I get a chance to get it out.

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
> Mark,
> 
> Have you considered taping up the vent windows (something like the green 
> masking tape) to see if the noise is actually coming from them? How are 
> the roof rail seals (it's a hard top, right?)? Glass aligned well?
> 
> Matt
> 
> Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Speaking of wind noise.
> > Does anyone know if putting in the replacement wing window seals
> > someone started repoping makes any difference?
> > Between wind noise and my stereo cranked up so I can hear it I 
> > go about half deaf!
> >   I remember there always being wind noise, anyway the new seals help?
> > I'd consider taking them out if i thought it would make a difference, but
> > man that would kill the nostalgia!
> > Though after a 110 miles today, I'm not feeling very nostalgic!
> > 
> > --
> > Mark Price
> > Morgantown, WV
> > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> > " Chronic Pain Hurts"
> > 
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> >> My 63 Classic has been upgraded a good bit -- Jag IRS, AMC/Jeep 4.6L EFI six, 
> >> AW-4 auto trans (w/manual controller), T-bird rack and pinion steering, 79 
> >> Spirit front disc brakes (plus Jag rear discs), S-10 tilt steering column, 
> power 
> >> bucket seats from a 90 or 91 Eagle Premier (at least it's somewhat AMC!), and 
> >> 90s Ford Ranger power booster/master cylinder. Even so, it hardly feels like 
> a 
> >> modern car. You still have the wind noise and occasional vibrations and 
> sounds 
> >> from the 63 body that modern cars just don't have. So even with extensive 
> >> upgrading you still have some of that "old car" feel. I've left the original 
> >> instrumentation alone simply because the 1-12 speedo is part of the "Rambler 
> >> look". But I agree with you in principle, old cars should be enjoyed for what 
> >> they are, not envious of what they aren't! My goal when building was to build 
> a 
> >> modern Rambler, something similar to what AMC would have been capable of 
> >> producing had they kept the 63-66 body through the mid 80s. 
> >>
> >> I've always felt they should have kept the 69 Rambler (American) sedan and 
> gave 
> >> it a facelift to replace the Rebel instead of a bigger car, but stretch it to 
> >> the 112" wheelbase of the 63-66 Classic for more leg room. Drop the Ambo, 
> then 
> >> use the Matador as the largest car, especially since the main difference 
> between 
> >> the Matador and Ambo is the extended wheelbase that adds no room! The 
> American 
> >> could have even had a similar extension and replaced the bog body altogether. 
> >> Similar to what Chrysler did in the 80s -- using the Volare/Aspen body to 
> >> repalce their big cars. Would have kept AMC as the compact leader and saved 
> lots 
> >> of money with just two major car lines (Hprnet/Gremlin then the American/Ambo 
> >> combo). Could have even left the American name on the smaller one. Then spend 
> >> money on developing a good four for the Gremlin instead of more car models. I 
> >> think attempting to compete with the big three was a fatal mistake, and 
> history 
> >> seems to prove me correct. Just one of the thi
> >>  ngs I'd have considered, but then I have 20/20 vision in the matter working 
> for 
> >> me now! 
> >>
> >> INCORRECT TOM!! My car had the M-35 with 3.31 axle. You're forgetting that 
> the 
> >> torque converter has a torque multiplication factor of at least 2.5:1 (more 
> >> likely 3:1). So you need less axle for the same performance. I installed a 
> 3.78 
> >> axle from an OD car behind my auto once. Left it in their about two months 
> then 
> >> switched back. No performance gain whatsoever -- at least nothing noticeable. 
> >> The only thing it did was increase engine rpm by 500 at cruising speed. A 
> stick 
> >> has to have more gear since there is no torque multiplication helping it out. 
> >> Now the stock 2.87 gear would probably have been a dog in comparison to the 
> >> 3.31. 
> >>
> >> ---------------
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:38:31 -0800
> >> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> I'm all for -- if you are driving and old car, it should drive like an old 
> >> car. OK scary brakes and crappy tires must go, etc, but utterly modernizing 
> >> an old car -- what's the point? Get a modern car!
> >>
> >> The secret is I think as I said before, the 3.77 axle and manual trans. 
> >> With an auto and around 3:1 this car would suck for performance. 
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Frank Swygert
> >> Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
> >> Magazine (AMC)
> >> For all AMC enthusiasts
> >> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> >> (free download available!)
> >>
> >>
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> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
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> 1967 Rambler American wagon
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