Re: [Amc-list] windshield chrome strip american / questions

[Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>]

I put a new windshield gasket in my 68 five years ago (the gasket came 
from Kennedy American) and it was just like the one that came out of it 
(except it wasn't all hard and nasty). That car had its windshield 
replaced once before so I have no idea if the gasket was original or 
not. However, I don't see any obvious differences between it and what's 
in my 67 wagon and I'm pretty sure that wagon's gasket is the original.

The windshield trim held on with the clips was for sure used in 67. My 
67 wagon has that style of trim and was built towards the end of October 
1966.

As far as clip induced rust goes, I didn't see any signs of it on my 68. 
There was a lot caused by the moron that put the previous windshield in 
(BTW, clear silicon and RTV over dirt do not seal the gasket!) scraped 
the paint off of the pinch weld. There was also a crack in the cowl in 
the middle of the car but that was likely induced by the general lack of 
front floors in the car when I got it.

The TSM is very clear about how to install the gasket. You have to use a 
sealer between the glass and the gasket and then pretty much fill the 
gap between the gasket and the car and install the trim before it dries. 
If you mess with the trim after the sealer dries, you are likely to get 
a leak at that spot.

Also, you need to use the correct sealer. The urethane stuff used on new 
windshields doesn't work well. You need to use something butyl based. 
Before I decided to have a glass shop install my windshield, I checked 
around and there were a couple of Mustang parts places that carried the 
correct sealer. 3M also still makes the stuff so anyplace that carries 
3M products should be able to get it for you.

Matt

Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I've heard the repros don't have th elarge bottom lip, but I'm not sure.
> I bedded my 69's trim in Black Marine grade 3M silicone with no clips.
> It does not leak.
> I wanted to not fool with the clips due to seeing them scratch and gouge the paint in this impossible to see area and cause rust.
> My only fear is that I will never get the trim out and I would like to someday install a nice new windshield!
> 
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
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>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Mike Kindle <mike90066@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> The strip should be embedded in the 
>> center of the gasket, with about 1/4" 
>> of gasket showing on each side. It wasn't 
>> until 68 or so that the windshields were 
>> held in with a urethane sealant and used
>>  a snap on chrome moulding. >>>
>>
>> 68 up does require sealant, but there is still
>> a gasket.  Pre 68 has a split gasket, chrome goes into
>> the split in the gasket which seals on both sides.
>>  
>> 68 up has metal clips around the opening, a solid gasket
>> around the glass, and you're supposed to goop it 
>> up with sealant around the metal lip and in the 
>> groove and then somehow pull the window into 
>> place without getting sealant everywhere.  
>> Then push the trim into the clips.
>>
>> Probably another bead of sealant before putting the trim
>> in is a good idea here.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1. Has anyone gotten new gaskets?  The original had
>>  an extended flap along the inside bottom that covered where
>>  the dash meets the window opening.  Do the replacements 
>> have this?
>> 2. I remember when pulling the window once before (68) two 
>> small screws stuck into the metal lip that perhaps were designed 
>> to help locate the window? Anybody know about this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike 
>>
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