I would not use the Rust-Oleum plastic paint for automotive applications as I do not think that it would last or be satisfactory. However if all I was doing was putting together a beater with a limited life span for cheap I might maybe try it. Not when products such as those offered by SEM are far superior in performance and can be mixed to exact colors. Application with an inexpensive air brush (Harbour Freight about $6.00 on sale) and a compressor (if you are going to do any serious automotive work this is a necessity, abet pricey initially but worth it.) is very easy to accomplish. Although vendors will package in a rattle can too so is an easy product to use. Generally as previously mentioned with something like a 3 can minimum limit. SEM is not the only manufacturer for automotive ?Plastic Dye? products but certainly the most respected. SNIP Should I expect my 232 to top out around 65? SNIP No, not unless it is geared so short that the engine is twisted as tight as a drum. These cars were made to drive at speeds approaching 75 mph or so when they were new. Many western states had speed limits that were that high and freeways toll roads and turnpikes were all in operation. I drove with my grandfather across country in 1959 with his 1957 Rambler 4 door sedan that would cruise handily at 75mph. In general American in line I-6 engines were never designed to be performance engines though, that image was left to the V8?s with the exception of the Pontiac overhead cam Sprint engine that was available for a few years. Most engines were under carbureted (An AMC 258 uses a 195 cfm rated Carter BBD) and that was the big carburetor. They were all under square, that is the bore was smaller than the stroke and the stroke is long! The Plymouth slant 6 225 cu in was 4 ¼ inchs. Long stroke engines are not happy campers at very high rpm?s. And the cams are selected by the factory to give max torque at very low rpms and then they will fall flat on their faces. They however are capable of being built to rev to between 5 and 6000 rpms with out a whole lot of concerns and with enough money they can be twisted tighter. This by the way is about the same rpm range V8s are built to run at easily. They respond amazingly well to a performance cam and even with a stock carburetor will run down the road at freeway speeds pretending to be a V8. Add a little more carburetor as they are generally way under carbureted and high rpm performance will come close to matching a small 2bbl carbureted V8 and give a poor running 4bbl a run for its money. Stock, there torque is max at about 1500 rpm, and very little torque at that, but as it is peaked so low, it feels peppier than they are as they go flat not much over 2500 rpm. I build H.P. engines and have had a lot of fun with I-6s. My current F.I. 258 will rev to 5500 rpm which is where it runs out of cam. It will cruise at 3200 rpm with out a problem and as it is geared to be a freeway flier at 31 mph/1000 rpm you do the math! And passing gear is set for W.O. throttle shift at 75 mph. (Torque flite W/lock up torque converter) The same engine stock carbureted started going flat about 3600 rpm which is about where the carburetor played out and was not much good over 4200 rpm. Cars of the 50?s and early 60?s that were supposed economy engines and that is what the I6 configuration was aimed at market wise should be good for at around 85 or so but maybe not more and be able to cruise with modern traffic. I-6 engines built after that still pretty much met that criteria, performance was left to the advent of the V6. Most notably GM and the Buick 3.8 L. If it can?t then the tune is not correct or the gearing is that of an old farm pick up truck. For me, of primary importance is a good performance cam, I like and use Iskenderian. Secondary importance more carburetor. Exhaust modifications have had little to no affect. On AMC I like the 81+ exhaust manifold, a big tail pipe and a performance muffler and call it good to go. Although, anything you can afford past that will only be an improvement even if only minor. An I-6 can run well reliably and for a long period of time. They just have a lousy performance image but they can sure draw attention due to their uniqness when dressed up for show. Notable exceptions, Jaguar, BMW, 240Z, Mercedes, Pontiac Sprint all come to mind, some still in production. Have fun John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070807/709b19a5/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list