Re: [Amc-list] Re; Fire up the way back Sherman, let's visit the 1934 ve
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Re: [Amc-list] Re; Fire up the way back Sherman, let's visit the 1934 version of the 252



" From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
" 
"  
" Andrew
" Snip
" " What is the interest in the 252 other than History. The engine dates
" " back to 1934 and it developed 75 hp at 3200 rpm. A real power house in
" " it's day and application I am sure, sporting a compression ratio of
" " 5.54:1 and 217 cu in. It was in production for a long period of time
" as
"  
" wasn't there also a straight-8 version, or was that of the family it
" replaced?
" Snip
"  
" AFAIK the straight 8 used in the Nash was not related to the I-6 other
" than they were both made by the same company.

finally found my info, from frank swygert about 4 years ago.  the 8
was descended from the older sixes of the '20s, not the series that
became the ohv 252.

" a lot of the '30's designs of engines were based on the size of engine 
" compartment that they had to live in rather than whether they were 
" a sound mechanical design or not.
" Not that they were the only one's to play that game. The last of the 
" Studebaker I-6's were overhead valve versions of the flat head and 
" if I remember them correctly still had the side inspection plate
" installed
" that was removed to set the valve lifters as needed as a flat head. 

the chevy 194/215/230/250/292 also had side inspection plates; i've
never understood why.  they never had side valves; never even had
solid lifters.

" Proprietary engines powered a lot of '30's cars but in the Kaiser, they
" still using a proprietary engine in 1954 when the went out of
" production.
" If I am not mistaken so did the Checker through the '50's some 
" where.

that was the continental f-226 also used by jeep up to '62 or so.
still easy to get parts for; -widely- used in industrial and farm apps.
i believe it influenced the ohc 230 used only briefly up here but into
the early '80s at ika in argentina.

" A part of what I find interesting about that era is the number 
" of manufacturers that used the GM hydramatic at that time. It kinda 
" makes me wonder just how universal that transmission was in it's 
" applications. 

pretty near, until the plant burned down about '52.  afaik there was
no other auto at the time.  even army trucks [gmc built m135s] had
them, along with rodder favorite 302 sixes.

" The MOPAR slant -6 replaced the old flat head which I think was 
" first designed for the Plymouth when it came out. Or close to that 
" time anyway and was used up until 1959 in MOPAR cars and after
" in industrial applications, fork lifts etc.

and up to '68, the legendary power wagon.  as tough as an old boot and
about as pretty.  the kaiser m715, with the ohc230, was its
replacement.  also over-the-top tough.

the aussie inline 'hemi', designed up here as a truck mill but
ditched, i've always thought was sized to slot into the old flathead
space.
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