Gheeeeesh, we have a bunch of GM bashers here. Come on, other than Mark's unfortunate experience with his S-10, how much bad luck has anyone really had with a late GM car/truck? My 2000 Silverado is great and now with 148,000 admittedly light duty miles, it is holding up well. Quite a bit of towing duty too, hauling old AMCs (AMC content) out of the weeds. GM makes some of the best fuel injection systems out there and their new LS-series of aluminum block engines is great. My truck has the cast iron version of the LS engine (small 4.8liter), sorta like the old 283 in displacement. It gets 20-22 mpg on the highway. Cruises at 2000 rpm at 70 mph with an overdrive tranny and 3.73 rear. And has all the power I really need, even for towing. Javelin on a heavy car trailer over the Grapevine.....no sweat. My thought is GM is beginning to design it's way out of the doldrums and will continue to be a major player. There may be more pain and layoffs, but I think they are about to turn the corner. Don't know about Chrysler and really can't tell about Ford right now. But I think the "big three" lost a lot of credibility in the 70s and 80s by building junk. A whole generation of car buyers starting looking to the imports first without even setting foot on a Big Three car lot. What's sad is that "habit" has carried over to trucks. GM and Ford build great trucks and look at how well the Toyotas and Nissans are selling. It's a shame. TRD my a**. Back to the 80s. I bought a 1980 gasoline Rabbit as new car and will never have another VW product. The fuel injection system on that car required two expensive repairs and they could only be done with dealer parts. Out of warranty too. Joe Fulton red, white and blue in Salinas, CA _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list