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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto? (Ken Siroonian)
   2. Re: 68 Rebel Convertible Questions
      (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
   3. Re: new car, new ideas (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
   4. Re: FOR SALE: 1969 AMX 500 Special One of 32 - $15000	(Santa
      Rosa, CA) (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
   5. Re: 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto? (Widiker, John D)
   6. Missing parts (Don Johnson)
   7. Re: Missing parts (Mark Price)
   8. Re: 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto? (Mark Price)
   9. Re: new car, new ideas (Mark Price)
  10. Re: new car, new ideas (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
  11. Re: new car, new ideas (msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:03:21 -0500
From: Ken Siroonian <KSiroonian@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62FRaqbC8wS00000557@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

OK, thats good info but what if it is just the outer ring, I found some 
of these in and not in boxes/pagkages and they just have the outer
ring, and the part numbers have fallen off. what would they be without
the center section. i can sure lift them with one finger. thanks.


On January 15, 2007 Widiker, John D wrote:

> can you lift it with 1 finger? If so it's an auto, if not it's a
manual.
> Here are links to examples:
> 
> http://mkiiitech.com/forsale/gteflexplate.jpg <---- auto flywheel
> (flexplate) LIGHT
> 
> http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/online/images/6375-1.jpg  <----
> manual flywheel HEAVY
> 
> ~John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Clifton Danley
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:19 AM
> To: Allan Kremkau; Bill Burkett; Bob Hodson; Bob Weidner; Carson
> Slabaugh; Cliff Danley; Craig Allebaugh; Cyrus Dossabhoy; Dave Basa;
> David & Judy Thomas; Devon Cole; Dolph Follansbee; Doug Noland;
Frank
> Spadaro; George Koufas; George Matt; Hal Floyd; Hal Gunner; Harold
> Lengel; Ira Barrett; Jay Cannaday; Jay Ciampi; JD Bare; Jeff Puras;
Jim
> Boone; Joe DeSalvo; Joe Swick; John Garza; John Morris; Jonathan
> Williams; Dana/Kathy Peters; Lars Mende; Lee Fordham; Louie
Lanthrip;
> Mark Ledman; Mark Shuford; Michael Sanfilippo; Michael Watts; Mike
> Bisogno; Mike Martinoff; Mike Slabaugh; Mike Therber; Noel Dana;
Patty
> Snead; Paul Pittman; Paul Shuler; Pete Harrison; Ray Pinto; Rick
> Martines; Rick Pittman; Robert Grybosh; Roger Ward; Russ Talley;
Scott
> Weingeroff; Steve Berg; Todd Weingeroff; Vernon Ramey; Wayne Feindt
> Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
> 
> Can someone explain to me the difference between an auto trans
flexplate
> and a manual trans flywheel? How to tell the difference? The one in
> question is from a 1970 390.
> 
> Cliff Danley


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:08:25 -0600
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 68 Rebel Convertible Questions
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A322955B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I was thinking mechanical problems and didn't even consider wheel
balance and shocks! Thanks for adding that Matt!!
-----------------
Date: Monday, January 15, 2007 09:15 AM
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>

I'd try the speedometer cable first to fix the needle problem. My 68
American had that exact same problem when I got it and it was solved
with a new cable.

Your shimmy may be nothing more than out of balance (or bad) tires.
Drums can also be out of balance but that's not as common, you can check
for this by looking at the lip around the outside edge of the drum to
see if there's a spot where a weight used to be. Bad shocks can also
contribute to this and will make vibration from out of balance tires and
drums more noticeable.





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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:13:25 -0600
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] new car, new ideas
To: <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A322956A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Jim, you can't just flip the Eagle front axle to the right side, you
know. How do you plan on overcoming that little problem? Swapping left
and right side axle shafts and tubes? Seems like it would be better to
leave the drive on the left and bend a new head pipe. You'll have a lot
of floor work either way. 

-------------
   My plan for the Spirit (I keep trying to call it an AMX because it
reminds me of the '77 I had to part for the motor to go into my '73
J4000)
is to put EFI on the 258 and a lockup 727 trans (pretty basic to this
point
but now it gets "different") then put a Dana 20 tcase on the IH 727 (off
an
AMC 6 rig) and flip it to the driver's side. Top that off with an AMC
Eagle
front axle and sub frame and Jeep XJ rear axle (I have a 3.07 geared
pair)
   I'll have to mod the floor a bit on the driver's side, but not nearly
as
much as for the regular tcase used in Eagles.



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:37:19 -0600
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] FOR SALE: 1969 AMX 500 Special One of 32 -
	$15000	(Santa Rosa, CA)
To: <bobm22@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A32295A8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Bob, my first thought was that $15K was actually "low average" for a
nice AMX (they tend to bring ~$20K, 360 or larger, depending on options
and condition). But then I read everything -- some missing parts, not
running, wrong color. If there's no documentation (window sticker?)
there's no way to tell if it is an original "AMX 500" either. The
sticker on the fender doesn't cut it! Even if it were a metal emblem
that would still prove nothing. Depending on WHY it's not running, this
could be anywhere from a $5K-$10K car. It will take another $10K to get
it to $20K territory, mainly because it really needs a good paint job
back to the original color to be RESTORED. Not "fixed up" or
"restified", but RESTORED -- as in put back to factory appearance (or at
least fairly close -- and note that I dais APPEARANCE -- I give a bit of
leeway for things like brake and engine improvements and adding optional
equipment).

I wouldn't give any extra for an "AMX 500" either. It's more a selling
point than a value adder. The AMX 500 was a regional special that really
had nothing but the sticker as unique equipment. Some California dealers
got together and came up with the "package" for advertising purposes.
They may have got a group order up of specific equipment, but I've seen
them in several colors. That indicates that the dealers may have got a
discount on a specific option package ordered over a short time period.
Bigger discounts came with ordering a certain number of cars all exactly
the same -- color and all. That would also make them a little more
valuable, as they could be more easily distinguished. Anyone can slap a
sticker on and call it "special". I'd have to see some kind of
documentation to add anything to an appraisal price, and even then it
wouldn't add much in this case -- the AMX 500 is to little known, and
those "in the know" realize it's really just a sticker. Hence a good
"selling point", but not much of a "value adder". 

----------------
Date: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:37 PM
From: BOB MEDINA <bobm22@xxxxxxxxxxx>

15k is not that bad for 500 special 1969 b.b.g
  i just sold my 1969 b.b.o.for 24k
u can see it at http://community.webshots.com/user/bobmedina
bobm

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:08 AM
Subject: [AMC-List] FOR SALE: 1969 AMX 500 Special One of 32 - $15000
(Santa
Rosa, CA)


>
> Rare and all...  but $15k?  Has everyone gone nuts just because a
Mopar
> fetched over a million?
>
> Leather seats... AC...  Radio appears to be gone...
>
> **************************************************
>
> 1969 AMX 500 Special One of 32
>
> Reply to: <mailto:sale-261443961@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=69_AMX>
> Date: 2007-01-12, 5:15AM
>
> 69 AMC AMX 500 Special, one of 32 built for Southern Calif. AMC
dealers,
> and used to promote racing. Car needs restoration, been in storage
(inside)
> for over 20+ years, still there, car does NOT RUN,. Car was Big Bad
Green,
> with tan interior, as all 500 Specials where, has been repainted the
wrong
> color, VERY RARE AMX, Picture on cover of AMX book is what car should
look
> like when resoted, call Dave @ (707) 588-8588, will consider trade
plus
> cash, no motorcycles or rice rockets, have no interest in them, will
trade
> for a project
> Mopar, Mustang, GTX, Fairlane, Galaxie, Road Runner, GTO, Muscle Car,
Hot
Rod,
>
> Original URL: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/261443961.html




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:42:05 -0500
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<053E34168692C4438533FE33E79C1A1843918C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hadn't considered that LOL 

-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ken Siroonian
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:03 PM
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?

OK, thats good info but what if it is just the outer ring, I found some
of these in and not in boxes/pagkages and they just have the outer ring,
and the part numbers have fallen off. what would they be without the
center section. i can sure lift them with one finger. thanks.


On January 15, 2007 Widiker, John D wrote:

> can you lift it with 1 finger? If so it's an auto, if not it's a
manual.
> Here are links to examples:
> 
> http://mkiiitech.com/forsale/gteflexplate.jpg <---- auto flywheel
> (flexplate) LIGHT
> 
> http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/online/images/6375-1.jpg  <----
> manual flywheel HEAVY
> 
> ~John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Clifton Danley
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:19 AM
> To: Allan Kremkau; Bill Burkett; Bob Hodson; Bob Weidner; Carson
> Slabaugh; Cliff Danley; Craig Allebaugh; Cyrus Dossabhoy; Dave Basa;
> David & Judy Thomas; Devon Cole; Dolph Follansbee; Doug Noland;
Frank
> Spadaro; George Koufas; George Matt; Hal Floyd; Hal Gunner; Harold
> Lengel; Ira Barrett; Jay Cannaday; Jay Ciampi; JD Bare; Jeff Puras;
Jim
> Boone; Joe DeSalvo; Joe Swick; John Garza; John Morris; Jonathan
> Williams; Dana/Kathy Peters; Lars Mende; Lee Fordham; Louie
Lanthrip;
> Mark Ledman; Mark Shuford; Michael Sanfilippo; Michael Watts; Mike
> Bisogno; Mike Martinoff; Mike Slabaugh; Mike Therber; Noel Dana;
Patty
> Snead; Paul Pittman; Paul Shuler; Pete Harrison; Ray Pinto; Rick
> Martines; Rick Pittman; Robert Grybosh; Roger Ward; Russ Talley;
Scott
> Weingeroff; Steve Berg; Todd Weingeroff; Vernon Ramey; Wayne Feindt
> Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
> 
> Can someone explain to me the difference between an auto trans
flexplate
> and a manual trans flywheel? How to tell the difference? The one in
> question is from a 1970 390.
> 
> Cliff Danley


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:49:03 -0500
From: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Missing parts
To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <001401c7397d$771182c0$6400a8c0@DONS>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Help.
I seem to have lost some parts for my AMX. In re-installing the electric windshield wipers I  cannot find the hardware to mount the electric motor to the cover plate or the attaching pieces to connect the motor to the arm.
I'm sure I will find them as soon as I arrange alternatives but for now, I'm looking for the parts.
The car is a 70 AMX.
Any help would be appreciated. I can see how the Charity AMX has had problems with parts. Not missing, just nowhere to be found.
Don


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 7:23:53 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Missing parts
To: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <18779870.1168961033369.JavaMail.root@web26>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

IIRC, American Parts Depot, the place in Florida, has all/most of this stuff.
I replaced all my clutch linkage bushings and boots with the stuff they sell and it all seemed like quality stuff.
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Help.
> I seem to have lost some parts for my AMX. In re-installing the electric windshield wipers I  cannot find the hardware to mount the electric motor to the cover plate or the attaching pieces to connect the motor to the arm.
> I'm sure I will find them as soon as I arrange alternatives but for now, I'm looking for the parts.
> The car is a 70 AMX.
> Any help would be appreciated. I can see how the Charity AMX has had problems with parts. Not missing, just nowhere to be found.
> Don
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 7:26:14 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <13148957.1168961174715.JavaMail.root@web26>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I used to be able to lift a manual trans flywheel with one finger! Not comfortable to carry, but I could lift it! probably still can! Gives everything a good stretch!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- "Widiker wrote: 
> Hadn't considered that LOL 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ken Siroonian
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:03 PM
> To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
> 
> OK, thats good info but what if it is just the outer ring, I found some
> of these in and not in boxes/pagkages and they just have the outer ring,
> and the part numbers have fallen off. what would they be without the
> center section. i can sure lift them with one finger. thanks.
> 
> 
> On January 15, 2007 Widiker, John D wrote:
> 
> > can you lift it with 1 finger? If so it's an auto, if not it's a
> manual.
> > Here are links to examples:
> > 
> > http://mkiiitech.com/forsale/gteflexplate.jpg <---- auto flywheel
> > (flexplate) LIGHT
> > 
> > http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/online/images/6375-1.jpg  <----
> > manual flywheel HEAVY
> > 
> > ~John
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Clifton Danley
> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:19 AM
> > To: Allan Kremkau; Bill Burkett; Bob Hodson; Bob Weidner; Carson
> > Slabaugh; Cliff Danley; Craig Allebaugh; Cyrus Dossabhoy; Dave Basa;
> > David & Judy Thomas; Devon Cole; Dolph Follansbee; Doug Noland;
> Frank
> > Spadaro; George Koufas; George Matt; Hal Floyd; Hal Gunner; Harold
> > Lengel; Ira Barrett; Jay Cannaday; Jay Ciampi; JD Bare; Jeff Puras;
> Jim
> > Boone; Joe DeSalvo; Joe Swick; John Garza; John Morris; Jonathan
> > Williams; Dana/Kathy Peters; Lars Mende; Lee Fordham; Louie
> Lanthrip;
> > Mark Ledman; Mark Shuford; Michael Sanfilippo; Michael Watts; Mike
> > Bisogno; Mike Martinoff; Mike Slabaugh; Mike Therber; Noel Dana;
> Patty
> > Snead; Paul Pittman; Paul Shuler; Pete Harrison; Ray Pinto; Rick
> > Martines; Rick Pittman; Robert Grybosh; Roger Ward; Russ Talley;
> Scott
> > Weingeroff; Steve Berg; Todd Weingeroff; Vernon Ramey; Wayne Feindt
> > Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [AMC-List] 390 Flywheel - Stick or Auto?
> > 
> > Can someone explain to me the difference between an auto trans
> flexplate
> > and a manual trans flywheel? How to tell the difference? The one in
> > question is from a 1970 390.
> > 
> > Cliff Danley
> 
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 7:34:16 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] new car, new ideas
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <32256306.1168961656249.JavaMail.root@web26>
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Frank, read again, he plans on flipping the T-case not the axle!
He is intending to leave the clocking so that the front output is lower than a normal Eagle to help clear the Spirit floor. Interesting plan. 
  Not sure it is worth the effort, but, we'll see.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- "Swygert wrote: 
> Jim, you can't just flip the Eagle front axle to the right side, you
> know. How do you plan on overcoming that little problem? Swapping left
> and right side axle shafts and tubes? Seems like it would be better to
> leave the drive on the left and bend a new head pipe. You'll have a lot
> of floor work either way. 
> 
> -------------
>    My plan for the Spirit (I keep trying to call it an AMX because it
> reminds me of the '77 I had to part for the motor to go into my '73
> J4000)
> is to put EFI on the 258 and a lockup 727 trans (pretty basic to this
> point
> but now it gets "different") then put a Dana 20 tcase on the IH 727 (off
> an
> AMC 6 rig) and flip it to the driver's side. Top that off with an AMC
> Eagle
> front axle and sub frame and Jeep XJ rear axle (I have a 3.07 geared
> pair)
>    I'll have to mod the floor a bit on the driver's side, but not nearly
> as
> much as for the regular tcase used in Eagles.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
> 
> or go to http://www.amc-list.com



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:44:05 -0600
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] new car, new ideas
To: "Mark Price" <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A32296EB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Got it now!! I didn't pay close enough attention. The Dana T-case has a
passenger side drive to the front, I was thinking he was trying to move
the drive to the passenger side (that the Dana had driver's side front
output). Need to pay a little closer attention sometimes! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Price [mailto:markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:34 AM
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] new car, new ideas

Frank, read again, he plans on flipping the T-case not the axle!
He is intending to leave the clocking so that the front output is lower
than a normal Eagle to help clear the Spirit floor. Interesting plan. 
  Not sure it is worth the effort, but, we'll see.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- "Swygert wrote: 
> Jim, you can't just flip the Eagle front axle to the right side, you
> know. How do you plan on overcoming that little problem? Swapping left
> and right side axle shafts and tubes? Seems like it would be better to
> leave the drive on the left and bend a new head pipe. You'll have a
lot
> of floor work either way. 
> 
> -------------
>    My plan for the Spirit (I keep trying to call it an AMX because it
> reminds me of the '77 I had to part for the motor to go into my '73
> J4000)
> is to put EFI on the 258 and a lockup 727 trans (pretty basic to this
> point
> but now it gets "different") then put a Dana 20 tcase on the IH 727
(off
> an
> AMC 6 rig) and flip it to the driver's side. Top that off with an AMC
> Eagle
> front axle and sub frame and Jeep XJ rear axle (I have a 3.07 geared
> pair)
>    I'll have to mod the floor a bit on the driver's side, but not
nearly
> as
> much as for the regular tcase used in Eagles.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AMC-List mailing list
> AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
> 
> or go to http://www.amc-list.com




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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:53:52 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] new car, new ideas
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<011620071553.4257.45ACF5100001E578000010A12216549976019D0A0790019D9F9C03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain

I think I would have opted for an AMC 727 with a flipped/clocked Dana 300.


-Spro
-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 

> Got it now!! I didn't pay close enough attention. The Dana T-case has a 
> passenger side drive to the front, I was thinking he was trying to move 
> the drive to the passenger side (that the Dana had driver's side front 
> output). Need to pay a little closer attention sometimes! 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mark Price [mailto:markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:34 AM 
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Cc: Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM 
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] new car, new ideas 
> 
> Frank, read again, he plans on flipping the T-case not the axle! 
> He is intending to leave the clocking so that the front output is lower 
> than a normal Eagle to help clear the Spirit floor. Interesting plan. 
> Not sure it is worth the effort, but, we'll see. 
> -- 
> Mark Price 
> markprice242ATadelphia.net 
> Morgantown, WV 
> 
> 
> ---- "Swygert wrote: 
> > Jim, you can't just flip the Eagle front axle to the right side, you 
> > know. How do you plan on overcoming that little problem? Swapping left 
> > and right side axle shafts and tubes? Seems like it would be better to 
> > leave the drive on the left and bend a new head pipe. You'll have a 
> lot 
> > of floor work either way. 
> > 
> > ------------- 
> > My plan for the Spirit (I keep trying to call it an AMX because it 
> > reminds me of the '77 I had to part for the motor to go into my '73 
> > J4000) 
> > is to put EFI on the 258 and a lockup 727 trans (pretty basic to this 
> > point 
> > but now it gets "different") then put a Dana 20 tcase on the IH 727 
> (off 
> > an 
> > AMC 6 rig) and flip it to the driver's side. Top that off with an AMC 
> > Eagle 
> > front axle and sub frame and Jeep XJ rear axle (I have a 3.07 geared 
> > pair) 
> > I'll have to mod the floor a bit on the driver's side, but not 
> nearly 
> > as 
> > much as for the regular tcase used in Eagles. 
> > 
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