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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: combination valve (Frank Swygert)
   2. Re: another american success story (Sandwich Maker)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:39:15 -0500
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] combination valve
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] combination valve
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> 
> I am trying to trace a problem in the brakes on my 83 Eagle.  I
> am
> getting premature (very) rear wheel lockup when braking.
> EVERYTHING but
> the combo valve is new.  My questions are these:
> 
> 1.  Is this a bendix or kelsey hayes valve?
> 
> 2.  Is there a centering pin?  There seems to be but it does not
> move so
> I think it is sending all the braking to the rear wheels.
> 
> Can anyone shed some light on this?
> 
> Thanks
> Wayne

Wayne, the valve has to be centered. If it swings to one side it will
block that side from receiving fluid, or at least cut it way down.
Sounds like that's your problem. I forget the procedure to center it.
There's a 73 AMC TSM on-line at www.tocp.com (search the site for AMC
manual) that will have the procedure. If you bled the brakes that can
cause the switch to trip. You're supposed to do something to disable
the switch when bleeding -- something those of use with older cars
usually forget about! 

It's a standard GM combo valve as far as I can determine. Master Power
Brakes (www.mpbrakes.com) sells replacements as universal hot rod
items. I think the one they sell is valved for a Camaro, which should
be right for all the small AMCs anyway. AMC used two different
pressures -- 400 psi for Rebel/Matador/Ambo, 200 psi for everything
else. 

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:59:21 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] another american success story
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Message-ID: <200611110459.kAB4xLV04317@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

nit: there's no 'g' in cummins.

" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" In NY Times today is an article about Cummings Diesel. Back in
" the 90's they were certain that new enviro regs were goin to
" kill them: impossible to meet.
" 
" Instead, they're thriving; quality, sales, technology, power,
" all up. They're reviving closed plants.
" 
" While it was specifically the EPA requirements that did it,
" before you leap, look at this: it was really some (any)
" outside bully forcing them top stop making very-short-term
" business decisions ("but it will cost us money") and instead
" make long-term technical ones.
" 
" Cummings is making good money now, and is spending LOTS on
" research (something soon-to-be-dying industries STOP spending
" money on). Their market is complicated (covered in the article)
" but they're doing really well.
" 
" Whiney businesses of all sorts -- American and otherwise --
" always piss me off. There's bad luck and bad markets for sure,
" but actual research (with people, their HANDS and brains) and
" actual development make for short-term costs and great long
" term results.
" 
" If it takes an EPA to force crucial industries to start doing
" some GDMF @#@!~%$$!! research, so be it.  if they did it
" themselves no one would have to poke them. Kick the equity
" managers and business consultants out into the street!
" 
" AMC did best when it kept it's focus on the bread and butter
" (little Americans and 4-door Classics) and experimented on the
" side (AMXs, research and collaborations).
" 
" Too bad GM (and apparantly the unions) got addicted to short-term
" fat money and cutting costs.
" 
" _______________________________________________
" 
" Oh yeah, another thing about this, they're making a lot of
" components they might otherweise have bought on the open market,
" but they state they didn't want to have some outside supplier's
" crappy part become their problem.  Delphi anyone?
" 
" _______________________________________________

gm is short sighted because it's stockholder owned, and - the tragedy
of the public corporation - as far as they care its product is money,
and anything it does to make money is only a side effect.  this
encourages the directors to burn the furniture, as long as they can
get out - like roger smith - with golden parachutes.

cummins is still primarily family owned, and like aaron feuerstein at
malden mills they can make what seem to be anti-profitable decisions
which are in the company's best long term interests.
--
years ago i stumbled on 'my days with the diesel' by clessie lyle
cummins, the company founder, and it was a fascinating read.

the company was actually his second.  his first was funded by a banker
whose chauffeur he'd been.  when he was screwed out of his share, with
a straight face the banker told him 'i put up -the-money-; all you did
was work'.

learning from that, he actually made two companies: cummins engine
development, wholly owned by himself and contracted by the greater
cummins engine manufacturing co for all r&d.  no small kerfuffle when
he retired and moved to dissolve all his holdings and the board
[re]discovered he personally owned all cummins patents!

cummins put the first diesel in a road-going vehicle, a packard
because it had the longest hood - and even then they barely squeezed
their marine powerplant in.  this was in the early '30s, the
depression, and needless to say it got a lot of attention...

they ran at indy - and did well.  iirc their 4-stroke car was only
middling but it's stablemate 2-stroker won!  it also seized solid when
it was shut off, so taking that as a sign they abandoned 2-stroke
development.  this was before lead and companies like phillips and
union proudly put their octanes in their names - 66 and 76.

iirc their 855 - now pushing 500hp - is a direct evolution of their
first purpose-designed truck engine.
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Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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