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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Compressors (dan whitehead)
2. Re: Re : Possible carb for a six? (Jim Blair)
3. Re: Compressors (Jim Blair)
4. Re: Re : Possible carb for a six? (Jim Blair)
5. Re: Possible carb for a six? (Sandwich Maker)
6. Rocker moldings (Ray Mick)
7. Re: Rocker moldings LINK (Ray Mick)
8. Re: Rocker moldings LINK (Ray Mick)
9. Re: Re : Possible carb for a six? (Mark Price)
10. 61 Rambler Wagon door latch mechanism (Michael Pell)
11. 61 Rambler wagon weight (Michael Pell)
12. Re: 61 Classic wagon weight (JOE FULTON)
13. Re: 61 Rambler Wagon door latch mechanism (Matt Haas)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:57:46 +0000
From: "dan whitehead" <freebird_58@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Compressors
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Art,
When looking at compressors make sure you get one of 1) good quality 2)
enough cfm output and 3) tank size. I have a porter cable 7.5 hp, 13cfm, 80
gallon tank, 2 stage that cost around $800 dollars. For the $300 more than
what your looking to spend you will never have to buy another compressor
again, (this is my third compressor, each larger than the last) and will be
able to grow as you learn new talents when working on the cars. The 2 stage
compressor will allow it to catch up as you use the air in the tank and the
13 cfm will allow you to run pretty much anything you want. Also make sure
you invest and study on how to install a good air system after the tank, ie.
regulator, lubricator, air filter. Depending on what you plan on in the
future should be taken into account, if you don't plan on anything else just
get a small horizontal compressor that can be stored easily.
Dan Whitehead
Southern Wisconsin
'82 Spirit GT
'70 BBO Donohue
'69 AMX
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:32:40 -0800
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Re : Possible carb for a six?
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Sounds like the needle and seat dried out and stuck (same prob the BBD I'm
going to work on had. Difference is the poor guy has a tank full of rust
soot as well, so we are putting on an oversized TBI filter to catch the
cruddies (in the past week he has had to change out 3 regular filters and
dump the sediment filter we added several times as well)
I figure his fuel tank is pretty much gone to rust, although it's not
leaking yet. Anyone have a list of tanks that will fit an '82 Spirit?
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Re : Possible carb for a six?
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Yeah, I thought so, The OMC means it is for a boat, which means
no emissions, no add on crap, the right bolt pattern for a AMC
six 2 bbl manifold, looked like an electric choke too. I know
some of the Roachfest carbs have a heavy loyal following.Hotrod
parts are probably easy to get. The orignal Cubic inches it
feed are right on the money for 232 and 199's so I figured I'd
throw it out there. I'm not endorcing it or anything.
I've got a NOS Stromberg from a 1955 Dodge small 8 here if
anyone is into playing with carbs. I bought it NOS bolted it on
and it flooded and stalled and I took it off and tossed it in
the shed.
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Morgantown, WV
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:58:27 -0800
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Compressors
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I bought the cheapie compressor (oil filled) from Harbor Freight and I use
the 27 gallon tank I have from another one that died a long time ago (I also
use it as an air pig to fill tires w/o having to drag out a compressor) I
also use the largest opening fittings I can find (standard size ones cut the
3/8" line down to less than 1/4")
I run my air tools till the compressor kicks in, then wait for it to
ctach up and shut off before going back to work. It's easier than constantly
going on and off for the compressor.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 08:02:50 -0800
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Re : Possible carb for a six?
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A: I have always liked the BBD, but discovered you need a really good filter
and not to run heavily alcohol laced gas. I'd reattach a cannister (so you
don't smell gas vapors) and run a high flow cat (if they took off the AIR
pump and not the cat, running will soon get tougher) Look for a solder job
on the harness near the ignition box/dist harness. That's the giveaway a
Nutter Bypass has been done.
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Re : Possible carb for a six?
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Speaking of BBDs, that's what my J-10 has on it. I just
discovered a
new-in-the-box NOS Carter WCD 2V carb I bought years ago. Not
sure if
it's a 196 or 232 version, but I'm wondering if I should
consider using
it in place of the BBD? A lot of the emissions stuff has been
removed
already (such as the charcoal canister -- I haven't looked to
see what
else might be missing, but no hoses/valves on the valve cover
like some
Eagles have...). It seems to run really good after it warm up,
and has
the connector for the computer system. I haven't even looked to
see if
that's hooked up!! Now I wonder if a "Nutter bypass" has been
done!! In
any case, it runs good, and I plan on driving it down to SC next
week.
Like I said earlier, if anyone sees a nut driving a lawn tractor
down
I-95 (next Wednesday!), take pity -- it's me, and the J-10 has
broken
down!! ;>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:48:54 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Possible carb for a six?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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" From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" Yeah, I thought so, The OMC means it is for a boat, which means no
" emissions, no add on crap, the right bolt pattern for a AMC six 2
" bbl manifold, looked like an electric choke too. I know some of the
" Roachfest carbs have a heavy loyal following. Hotrod parts are
" probably easy to get.
up here there's a racing class where stock-carb 2bbl chevy 350s are
the rule. the cheat is that there were some really big 2bbls on olds
455s...
" The orignal Cubic inches it feed are right on the money for 232 and
" 199's so I figured I'd throw it out there. I'm not endorcing it or
" anything.
it would be an interesting experiment!
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internet rambler is to see what all have seen
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:22:07 -0600
From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Rocker moldings
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Take a look at these to see if they are close for an AMX
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=280044436681&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11
Ray Mick
Somewhere in Kansas
"The older I get the faster I was"
72 Javelin/AMX
72 Javelin R/W/B SST
71 Javelin
See my Javelin @
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:28:45 -0600
From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Rocker moldings LINK
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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TRY THIS LINK http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=280044436681&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11
On Nov 4, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Ray Mick wrote:
> Take a look at these to see if they are close for an AMX
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=280044436681&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11
>
>
> Ray Mick
> Somewhere in Kansas
> "The older I get the faster I was"
> 72 Javelin/AMX
> 72 Javelin R/W/B SST
> 71 Javelin
> See my Javelin @
> http://community.webshots.com/album/54361408pRyvWE
>
> My RWB Javelin@ http://members.cox.net/jvlnnut/Site/My%20Space.html
>
> Mid America AMC
> www.midamericaamc.com
>
>
>
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"The older I get the faster I was"
72 Javelin/AMX
72 Javelin R/W/B SST
71 Javelin
See my Javelin @
http://community.webshots.com/album/54361408pRyvWE
My RWB Javelin@ http://members.cox.net/jvlnnut/Site/My%20Space.html
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:35:01 -0600
From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Rocker moldings LINK
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=280044436681&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:
Rocker moldings How close are these to an AMX
Ray Mick
Somewhere in Kansas
"The older I get the faster I was"
72 Javelin/AMX
72 Javelin R/W/B SST
71 Javelin
See my Javelin @
http://community.webshots.com/album/54361408pRyvWE
My RWB Javelin@ http://members.cox.net/jvlnnut/Site/My%20Space.html
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www.midamericaamc.com
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:35:37 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Re : Possible carb for a six?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Buy a new tank.
I think the Concord tank that is out there fits the Spirits too.
IIRC its not real expensive.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sounds like the needle and seat dried out and stuck (same prob the BBD I'm
> going to work on had. Difference is the poor guy has a tank full of rust
> soot as well, so we are putting on an oversized TBI filter to catch the
> cruddies (in the past week he has had to change out 3 regular filters and
> dump the sediment filter we added several times as well)
> I figure his fuel tank is pretty much gone to rust, although it's not
> leaking yet. Anyone have a list of tanks that will fit an '82 Spirit?
>
>
> From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Re : Possible carb for a six?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Message-ID: <12702366.1162598883420.JavaMail.root@web34>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Yeah, I thought so, The OMC means it is for a boat, which means
> no emissions, no add on crap, the right bolt pattern for a AMC
> six 2 bbl manifold, looked like an electric choke too. I know
> some of the Roachfest carbs have a heavy loyal following.Hotrod
> parts are probably easy to get. The orignal Cubic inches it
> feed are right on the money for 232 and 199's so I figured I'd
> throw it out there. I'm not endorcing it or anything.
> I've got a NOS Stromberg from a 1955 Dodge small 8 here if
> anyone is into playing with carbs. I bought it NOS bolted it on
> and it flooded and stalled and I took it off and tossed it in
> the shed.
> --
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:19:57 -0500
From: Michael Pell <mjpell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 61 Rambler Wagon door latch mechanism
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On my '61 Rambler wagon, the driv door latch part, described as "Lock
Outside Latch" in my service manual doesn't spring back when the door is
opened.
I can manually rotate it to shut the door, but if I do not rotate it,
then I can't close the door.
Would anyone have the spring required to rotate it back into position?
Thanks,
Mike
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>
>Quoting Verron Bretemps <amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>
>
>> Seems some are talking about Mustang II (Nick A's future kit) and some
>> about 67-73 Mustang style which AMC adapted to the 70 up cars. Has
>> anyone compared the 67 up Ford parts with the AMC stuff ???? The upper
>> control arms, spring seats and shocks appear close at first glance. I
>> used 67 Mustang-Fairlane style shocks on my 70 AMX NHRA stock race
>> car, exact fit! Perhaps 67 up aftermarket parts could used on our
>> AMC's.
>> RE: Strut rods, Pierre Bochamp, in Canada makes race strut rods for
>> AMC's. I haven't used them but, the pictures look good.
>> RE: Mustang II With all the development allready done on this setup
>> an AMC crossmember is long overdue. Along these lines has anyone
>> adapted a Pacer suspension unit to any other AMC's? I've seen them on
>> a few street rods (with the power rack, large discs and 5X4.5 b.c.).
>>
>> amxron
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:20:47 -0500
From: Michael Pell <mjpell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 61 Rambler wagon weight
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Just curious, what's the approx weight of a 61 Rambler Wagon deluxe ?
I do have the alum block engine.
Thanks,
Mike
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Ken Ames wrote:
>If you have a good supply, the Pacer front suspension is also a stand-alone
>setup with rack-and-pinion and all in the crossmember.
>
>Ken
>
>
>
>Quoting Verron Bretemps <amxron@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>
>
>> Seems some are talking about Mustang II (Nick A's future kit) and some
>> about 67-73 Mustang style which AMC adapted to the 70 up cars. Has
>> anyone compared the 67 up Ford parts with the AMC stuff ???? The upper
>> control arms, spring seats and shocks appear close at first glance. I
>> used 67 Mustang-Fairlane style shocks on my 70 AMX NHRA stock race
>> car, exact fit! Perhaps 67 up aftermarket parts could used on our
>> AMC's.
>> RE: Strut rods, Pierre Bochamp, in Canada makes race strut rods for
>> AMC's. I haven't used them but, the pictures look good.
>> RE: Mustang II With all the development allready done on this setup
>> an AMC crossmember is long overdue. Along these lines has anyone
>> adapted a Pacer suspension unit to any other AMC's? I've seen them on
>> a few street rods (with the power rack, large discs and 5X4.5 b.c.).
>>
>> amxron
>> Orbit AMC/Jeep
>> Brentwood, Md
>> 50-1787
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:11:51 -0800 (PST)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 61 Classic wagon weight
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Mike and all,
The Standard Catalog of American motors lists the
shipping weight of the 61 Classic Deluxe 4-door wagon
as 3014 pounds. Shipping weight is the weight of the
car with standard features (no options), lubricants
and coolant and just enough gas to get it on and off
of the truck to the dealer, generally less than five
gallons.
The Deluxe series came standard with the cast iron 196
OHV engine. The aluminum block engine is advertised
as weighing 80 pounds less than the cast iron block.
You shipping weight would therefore be somewhat
lighter than 3014 pounds.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:35:20 -0500
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 61 Rambler Wagon door latch mechanism
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Michael Pell wrote:
> On my '61 Rambler wagon, the driv door latch part, described as "Lock
> Outside Latch" in my service manual doesn't spring back when the door is
> opened.
> I can manually rotate it to shut the door, but if I do not rotate it,
> then I can't close the door.
>
> Would anyone have the spring required to rotate it back into position?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
Mike,
It just may be gummed up. Have you tried to clean it yet?
Matt
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