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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AMC Hot Rod (Sandwich Maker)
2. Re: SC Rambler converible clone in LA. (Tom Jennings)
3. Re: rambler hot rod (Tom Jennings)
4. Re: rambler hot rod (Sandwich Maker)
5. Charity AMX is moving! (Widiker, John D)
6. Re: rambler hot rod (Tom Jennings)
7. Re: rambler hot rod (Sandwich Maker)
8. Re: rambler hot rod (Tom Jennings)
9. Re: rambler hot rod (Sandwich Maker)
10. Charity AMX Project (Mr. AMC)
11. Re: rambler hot rod (Tom Jennings)
12. 66 AMBASSADOR BRAKES (Anthony)
13. Re: headlight malfunction (DIMMER SWITCH) (Jay)
14. Re: 66 AMBASSADOR BRAKES (Sandwich Maker)
15. Dimmer Switch Failures (Brien Tourville)
16. Re: Poly sway bar bushings (Armand Eshleman)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:46:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC Hot Rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610021646.k92Gkgx02331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: farna@xxxxxxx
"
" I'm not sure the diff would run long upside down. The gears wouldn't be
" riding in oil with the pinion near the top. But then there are axles
" made that way -- wonder if they have anything in them to pull oil up
" top? Probably not -- should be plenty splash oiling with the ring gear
" running in oil.
start with a high pinion chuck! when it's flipped over...
" To change rotation on a Corvair (or VW/Porsche) transaxle is easy --
" put the ring gear on the opposite side. The way those are made they
" flip over easy.
this is true of vw and porsche; they use spiral bevel ring and
pinions. but the corvair uses a hypoid set just like any normal rear
axle. iirc the corvair mill turns 'backwards' to start with, and
drives the tranny in front of the axle, which then feeds the diff from
the front in normal rotation.
remember the early pontiac tempest? it, along with the new little
buick skylark and olds f-85, were built on the corvair platform '61-3,
but the tempest - front engine and all - also used the 'vair transaxle
and swingarm suspension.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] SC Rambler converible clone in LA.
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Nick ALFANO wrote:
> That car was on E-bay a few weeks ago. I am not sure
> if it sold or not but it looked like a well done car.
> It does have a 6cyl in it. Would be a sweet ride to
> own and cruise in the summer. My daughter would love
> it.
Yeah -- it really was done nicely. I looked underneath. Clean,
neat, painted, no crap work or studpid shortcuts visible. Whoever
made it does good work. Enough $$$ to do everything right,
but it didn't have that look of undrivable expensive toy,
the sign of someone who's done this sort of thing before.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:52:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> dunno about the sbc, but the chevy inline 6 gear is cut the other way
> - the chevy cam is gear driven - and it fits. remember the hei swap!
> all you'd have to do is get the cam cut right [gear and all] and a
> reverse rotation starter. and if they exist for sbcs it should be
> doable for this engine.
I forgot about that dist gear!!
I bet a regular starter would be easily reworked for other
rotation.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:34:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610021734.k92HYFP03203@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
"
"
" I bet a regular starter would be easily reworked for other
" rotation.
a marine outfit that's been around a while should know the ins and
outs. it used to be common in twin inboards to have one run
backwards.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:25:40 -0400
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Charity AMX is moving!
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Frank and Tom both coordinated to come up with the current plan off
list. To their credit they cleared their differences up quickly and
privately and seemed very conscious as to each others feelings.
When this discussion began it was believed that the car was already
painted with minimal follow up work needed. As we've discovered
subsequently this is not exactly the case. Zion Auto Body did a TON of
work to get the car ready to this point but paint needs to still be
applied.
I've secured commitments already for both paint materials and paint job
to be donated in their entirety. Work is to commence immediately once
the car arrives. It's not uncommon for these people to do $10,000.00+
paint jobs and they accepted doing this for the children's hospital
charities without batting an eye.
I'm working to acquire the interior parts currently and have a Wyotech
(custom interiors program) graduate ready to work (for free) to install
the stock seat covers, dye off color parts etc.
Pictures will be posted of the car in the arrived status and as work
progresses, I plan to post pics weekly. If you don't see things getting
done feel free to ask why the hell not.
There will be an invitation made to the local AMC enthusiasts and Great
Lakes Classic AMC Club for several dates that I'll be arranging. The
spirit of this project is maintained by making it possible for people to
participate and contribute as they wish both professional and amateur.
~John
-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Todd Jesme
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:53 PM
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Charity AMX is moving!
Frank,
Based on what appeared to be about a 99.9% approval for getting the car
back to Tom Benvie ASAP, to finish for the BJ auction in Scottsdale this
coming January, you seem to have made an almost unilateral decision to
do the opposite.?. I'm sure you've had dialogue with Mr. Benvie about
this in the last couple of days, so I'm anxious (as I'm sure others are)
to hear his comments (from him). If he is on-board with this latest
news, then I guess all is good.
Todd (preparing for the deep-freeze) Jesme
-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of farna@xxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:23 PM
To: AMC-List
Subject: [AMC-List] Charity AMX is moving!
Thanks to the aide of list members, the Charity AMX is moving! John
Widiker will be taking over "on-site coordinator" duties while the car
as at his shop in Auburn Hills, MI. He's going to look over the car and
finish it if he feels he can. I'm reserving saying more than that until
he sees the car and determines exactly what is needed. Jack Barncord is
planning on picking up the car and transporting to John. I'm reimbursing
him for expenses from the funds I still have reserved for the car. John
may be asking the list for help later.
I want to take this opportunity to thank Dave DeLabio for seeing that
the body work got done to the car. It's in primer and ready for paint,
will need just a little block sanding and touch-up before color is
sprayed on. There was a bit more body work than anticipated, and it took
longer than expected, but everything has turned out for the best. Zion
Auto Body did a great job!
With any luck this car will get completed over the winter and be
auctioned early in 2007!
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > dunno about the sbc, but the chevy inline 6 gear is cut the other way
> > - the chevy cam is gear driven - and it fits. remember the hei swap!
Clearly we're assuming manual transmissions. I have little
experience with transmission innards -- but most of the synchros
I've looked at, the dogs look symmetrical.
Do manuals mind running the wrong way? Lubrication for the ones
I've been in doesn't seem like a problem (immersion).
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:09:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610021909.k92J9NW03784@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
"
" > > dunno about the sbc, but the chevy inline 6 gear is cut the other way
" > > - the chevy cam is gear driven - and it fits. remember the hei swap!
"
" Clearly we're assuming manual transmissions. I have little
" experience with transmission innards -- but most of the synchros
" I've looked at, the dogs look symmetrical.
i think things should work. the synchro dogs have to transmit power
both ways, under power and engine braking...
" Do manuals mind running the wrong way? Lubrication for the ones
" I've been in doesn't seem like a problem (immersion).
all the ones i know of are splash lubed, which is why you cannot tow
them long distances - no lube, since the cluster [which does the
splashing] only turns if the engine is running.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> i think things should work. the synchro dogs have to transmit power
> both ways, under power and engine braking...
What about helical gear cut? I didn't say explicitly, but
Jack pointed out off-list, load and cut tends to keep gears
engaged. Reversing it tend to push gears out of engagement? Much?
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:29:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610022129.k92LTS904717@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
"
" On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
"
" > i think things should work. the synchro dogs have to transmit power
" > both ways, under power and engine braking...
"
" What about helical gear cut? I didn't say explicitly, but
" Jack pointed out off-list, load and cut tends to keep gears
" engaged. Reversing it tend to push gears out of engagement? Much?
but synchronized gears are always meshed; it's the synchros that
actually do the engagement/disengagement. load and cut does tend to
keep the synchros engaged - popping out of gear is a sign of worn
synchros - but they have to stay engaged under both power and trailing
throttle, and that makes me think the tranny would work equally well
turned either way.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 18:13:09 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Charity AMX Project
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <8347-45218EF5-5029@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
Being a newbie to the net at the time this project was in it's original
proposal and it's infancy it seemed to me like an un-doable thing. I
speak as an old gray beard as some call us old timers. I have dealt
with car club's as a member and as officer, and as an observer. This was
a monumental undertaking. To see it get this far is amazing. As a father
of 3 and a grandfather of one I can understand the problems of a sick
child. All of my children had some health issues but none serious. I
can't remember the issues Tom had with his daughter I believe, but I as
a father feel for him. A simpler thing would have been to ask for a tax
free donation to the clarity he supported in the name of this group and
make it known to all the magazines we all buy. I have many long time
subscriptions to most major magazines that it would be good press for
them to publish a small or large story in the readers rides sections or
some other column. Just my 2 cent's.
"Doc"
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610021549140.19549@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> synchros - but they have to stay engaged under both power and trailing
> throttle, and that makes me think the tranny would work equally well
> turned either way.
D'OH! This last is the real teller. Thanks.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:21:08 -0400
From: "Anthony" <f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 66 AMBASSADOR BRAKES
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000d01c6e679$713492e0$6401a8c0@SERVER>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Will 72 javalin disc. work on my 1966
AMBASSADOR DPL. THANK YOU ! !
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 20:04:52 -0400
From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] headlight malfunction (DIMMER SWITCH)
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <002401c6e67f$92fce480$2fc41ecf@Ciampi>
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reply-type=original
Thanks. I did that this morning and ordered a new one.
Jay
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:03:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 66 AMBASSADOR BRAKES
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610030103.k93136105755@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "Anthony" <f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" Will 72 javalin disc. work on my 1966
" AMBASSADOR DPL. THANK YOU ! !
yes. in fact any year will work, and '82-3 are more desirable from
the parts standpoint.
you'll need everything from the spindles out, plus the master cylinder
and proportioning valve from the donor car.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:16:44 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Dimmer Switch Failures
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From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] headlight malfunction (DIMMER SWITCH)
check your dimmer switch. more times than not, that is the problem.
especially if its the one on the floor you tap with your right toe.
old
fords are BAD for them going bad. had them go bad more than once. my
rambler has had one go bad also. i say check that first.
=== ===
Dimmer switch has my Vote.
Water - Dirt - Humidity take its' toll,
have had 2 fail in my experience -
MoPar items.
=Bt=
milnersXcoupe
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 20:50:55 -0500
From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Poly sway bar bushings
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <006701c6e68e$5e088900$6601a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
My take on the squeak is, heck with em, if those people aren't smart enough
to know the difference between a shot suspension squeak and a squeak from a
car equipped with poly bushings, then who cares what they think !!! And
there is a difference in the sound.
Personally, I proudly wear the squeak to great effect on my 70 Javelin ! It
only squeaks occasionally and those who know why are impressed, and ask if I
have poly bushings !!! I put poly bushings in the sway bars, the spring
perches and the strut rods. I chose not to place them in the control arms
because I was informed that it makes the ride too rough and transmits
additional noise into the interior. I chose not to lubricate them because
I've seen photos of front ends with poly bushings and lubricant. They were
very messy with dirty goo all over. I like mine clean and squeaky.
Armand
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> Has anyone used polyurethane sway bar bushings on anything, AMC
> or not, and found a method to keep them from "screeching"? I
> installed a larger Addco sway bar on my Eagle and although it
> seems to work just fine, whenever I go over a dip there is a
> distinct screech from the front. I've gone back underneath and
> can't seem to find anything obviously wrong. If I push down on
> either front fender, I don't get the noise. Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Russell
> 1988 Eagle Wagon
>
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