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Today's Topics:

   1. A Jeep truck for me!  (maybe...) (farna@xxxxxxx)
   2. Re: A Jeep truck for me!  (maybe...) (Sandwich Maker)
   3. Re: A Jeep truck for me!  (maybe...) (msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
   4. AMC 6 Valve keepers / locks (Brien Tourville)
   5. Squishnocity (jackbarncord@xxxxxxx)
   6. Last Call Free 1979 258 Six (Mr. AMC)
   7. Polyurethane sway bar bushings. ( Russell T. Neyhart)
   8. Re: Polyurethane sway bar bushings. (Tom Jennings)
   9. Fw: 1973 gremlin parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  10. What is a Rambler Classic Wagon Worth?? (William Renshaw)
  11. Re: What is a Rambler Classic Wagon Worth?? (RetroRalph)
  12. Re: Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO < (Jim Blair)
  13. Re: Eagle Premier (Jim Blair)
  14. Re: plastic bumper for 81 - '82 Eagle KAMMBACK (Brien Tourville)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:58:41 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] A Jeep truck for me!  (maybe...)
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Going to go look at a J-10 w/258 and four speed tomorrow. All I know is it "runs good" and isn't rusted out, and is a short bed. Asking price of $1200 OBO probably means the engine runs but is on its last leg, and the body might not be rusted out but might be a little on the beat up side. Same guy also has a tired 4.0L Comanche with blow-by (could just be the PCV hose...) and pops out of either 4th or 5th gear (I forget which - indicates a synchro is bad though). Trans is supposedly the AX-5 or 15, guy deals in Jeeps and says it's definitely NOT the Peugeot trans. Wants $650 as is for that one. Have to run it by the wife, but don't think she'll complain for $1K. Will need/want a truck when I get to SC anyway. One of these I'd drive down in early November with a load of "stuff" that needs to go and take a bus back. Hmmm.... haul the bike down and drive it back? Probably to cool in November!! Might haul the bike down and leave it too... less to move in June! Plus if I did brea!
 k down 
it would be better to have the bike than the riding mower (which I don't really need here). But if you see someone driving an older red riding mower down the shoulder of I-95 between D.C. and S.C in early November, please stop and see what happened!! ;> 

--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] A Jeep truck for me!  (maybe...)
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" From: farna@xxxxxxx
" 
" Same guy also has a tired 4.0L Comanche with blow-by (could just be the
" PCV hose...) and pops out of either 4th or 5th gear (I forget which -
" indicates a synchro is bad though). Trans is supposedly the AX-5 or 15,
" guy deals in Jeeps and says it's definitely NOT the Peugeot trans. Wants

for a 4.0 it's the ax-15.  the ax-5 is/was only used with fours and
2.8s.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:18:00 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] A Jeep truck for me!  (maybe...)
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Frank-

I have both a T-176/NP208J and a T-18a/NP208J J-series drivetrain if you find that the J-series has any issues.  Good luck...

-Spro

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From: farna@xxxxxxx 

> Going to go look at a J-10 w/258 and four speed tomorrow. All I know is it "runs 
> good" and isn't rusted out, and is a short bed. Asking price of $1200 OBO 
> probably means the engine runs but is on its last leg, and the body might not be 
> rusted out but might be a little on the beat up side. Same guy also has a tired 
> 4.0L Comanche with blow-by (could just be the PCV hose...) and pops out of 
> either 4th or 5th gear (I forget which - indicates a synchro is bad though). 
> Trans is supposedly the AX-5 or 15, guy deals in Jeeps and says it's definitely 
> NOT the Peugeot trans. Wants $650 as is for that one. Have to run it by the 
> wife, but don't think she'll complain for $1K. Will need/want a truck when I get 
> to SC anyway. One of these I'd drive down in early November with a load of 
> "stuff" that needs to go and take a bus back. Hmmm.... haul the bike down and 
> drive it back? Probably to cool in November!! Might haul the bike down and leave 
> it too... less to move in June! Plus if I did brea! 
> k down 
> it would be better to have the bike than the riding mower (which I don't really 
> need here). But if you see someone driving an older red riding mower down the 
> shoulder of I-95 between D.C. and S.C in early November, please stop and see 
> what happened!! ;> 
> 
> -- 
> Frank Swygert 
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
> Magazine (AMC) 
> For all AMC enthusiasts 
> http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html 
> (free download available!) 

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:44:17 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC 6 Valve keepers / locks
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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hi all
apparently I dropped an exhaust valve or some such similar 
catastrophic
failure  on my return from the AMC nationals and royally screwed 
things 
up
in the 258. does anyone have a desire to part with a motor (or long 
block)
in MI for low $$$? thanks Doug




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same thing awhile back a Lister finished a
Turbo installation on their AMC6 - took it out
for a trial run - ran great - next morning start up
dropped the valve - project junked.


it's an extra expense - more task to change out
the valve locks & keepers to an aftermarket Crane or
other supplier - but cheap insurance if you're running
the Inliner.

I'd post to the Forum & GremlinX.com - 
www.epage.com -  Inliner.org for a spare.

  
        =Bt=
  milnersXcoupe



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:01:03 +0000
From: jackbarncord@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Squishnocity
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC List)
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Okay, so every once in awhile I stretch words a bit by adding the suffix "nocity".  I call that extending the meaning of the word via wordnocity.

I can't claim ownership of this disease, I caught it from an ex-president of Star Mfg. where I work.  His favorite?  ?Thicknocity? defined as the condition of a part dimension being over specification creating the illusion of being thick.  It was the illusion of being thick because he never figured an out of spec dimension should be a problem with plow parts, besides to the farmer a thicker plow part lasts longer.

AMC ? content:

I?m looking for a disk brake setup for my 70 Hornet, I would prefer parts from an 81 ? 83 Spirit since I already have a spare set of new calipers.

Also a tilt column, with column shift for automatic for the Hornet.

Thanks,

Jack

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:30:41 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Last Call Free 1979 258 Six
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Was a good running engine in 2000 when I parted the car out. Can't give
it away so in 3-6 weeks it goes to the dump. It has been in my storage
room since 2000. I have an engine hoist in the room to load it. Bring
your what ever and pick it up. Note I am stating it is in Yonkers, N.Y
right out of N.Y. City 5 miles north of the city line 2 miles off of Rt#
87 (N.Y. State Thruway) Pick it up or it goes to the dump. To many
people have said I want it (my son's friend for the last 3 years) To the
dump it goes to SOOON!!!!!!!
Anyone interested contact me off list at amc74hornet@xxxxxxxxxx 4-6
weeks maybe sooner as need to close out the storage space. 
"Doc"



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:54:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: " Russell T. Neyhart" <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Polyurethane sway bar bushings.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Good Afternoon,

Has anyone used polyurethane sway bar bushings on anything, AMC or not, and found a method to keep them from "screeching"?  I installed a larger Addco sway bar on my Eagle and although it seems to work just fine, whenever I go over a dip there is a distinct screech from the front.  I've gone back underneath and can't seem to find anything obviously wrong.  If I push down on either front fender, I don't get the noise.  Any ideas?

Regards,

Russell
1988 Eagle Wagon


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Polyurethane sway bar bushings.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006,  Russell T. Neyhart wrote:

> Has anyone used polyurethane sway bar bushings on anything,
> AMC or not, and found a method to keep them from "screeching"?

Sure, lots of ways:

1. Louder stereo.
2. Earplugs.
3. Leave in driveway.

Sorry. Not making fun of you, comiserating!

My rambler suffers this same disease (in the strut bushings). It
bugs me that it sounds like a "groaning old car" when in fact
it's as good as new.

As I'm sure you found out, grease, silicone spray etc all work
for as long as the stuff is in there -- a day or a week.

Something about the surface stiffness of the poly, it "strums"
like a guitar string when rubbed under pressure.

Bushing it with nylon, delrin, etc would probably do it but
that's not much of a suggestion.


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:34:55 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 1973 gremlin parts wanted
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: pauls custom <paulscustom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <031701c6e420$a78426e0$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Paul is looking for a few items for a 73 Gremlin, if anyone can help him out please feel free to email him at the information provided below and thanks in advance to all who might reply. 
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
Email is currently HEAVY
5-12 day reply times, call if important
----- Original Message ----- 
From: pauls custom      paulscustom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: 1973 gremlin


i need a grill for a 73 gremlin not sure if it`s a grenlin x or not it does not have bumper guards, also a rear bumper filler ,and drivers side mirror mabe more...thanks. paulscustom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or 603-934-9290

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:30:56 -0700
From: "William Renshaw" <lionwren@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] What is a Rambler Classic Wagon Worth??
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY105-F3248A20983D7CD773BA054C5190@xxxxxxx>
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I found (not sure what year it is) a rather nice Rambler Wagon Classic. If 
my pea sized brain can remember, I believe it said a 770?? maybe a 660??  
Has some rust issues around the rear wheel wells, but would make a rather 
nice and easy restoration project....as if I dont have enough already!! The 
interior is in good shape, it has a rear roll down window and a fold down 
rear hatch. So a person can get things in and out. The chrome is in rather 
good shape and has a roof rack on it. One thing I did notice that it has 
this rather strange light on the front bumper, like it maybe for the front 
plate. Somthing that I have never seen before and I thought it was rather 
cool! I am not even sure if the rust issues go farther then the rear wheel 
wells. I dont even know if the car runs or not. It is this way ugly green 
color but it is all there. It has the a 232 in it and I believe a three 
speed on the tree. If anyone could give me an offer price on this car and 
some help, it would be greatly appreciated. And of course I will gather more 
information also. The car is located in Western Montana.



Bill Northern Idaho




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:29:02 -0700
From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What is a Rambler Classic Wagon Worth??
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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What I use for guesstimating value is on-line guide www.vmrintl.com .  They 
have classic car prices guide .  Just look under Rambler for this one.  1965 
is the last one shown for this one.  Select "Classic" for the various types 
for the wagon.    There is a condition guide handy for condition reference.

I think it said this value is from $600>1600 for #3 or #4 car.   Other mdels 
may be lusted under "AMC" rather than "Rambler."
______________________________________________________________
Ralph Ausmann  -  Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx>
http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Renshaw" <lionwren@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:30 PM
Subject: [AMC-List] What is a Rambler Classic Wagon Worth??


>I found (not sure what year it is) a rather nice Rambler Wagon Classic. If
> my pea sized brain can remember, I believe it said a 770?? maybe a 660??
> Has some rust issues around the rear wheel wells, but would make a rather
> nice and easy restoration project....as if I dont have enough already!! 
> The
> interior is in good shape, it has a rear roll down window and a fold down
> rear hatch. So a person can get things in and out. The chrome is in rather
> good shape and has a roof rack on it. One thing I did notice that it has
> this rather strange light on the front bumper, like it maybe for the front
> plate. Somthing that I have never seen before and I thought it was rather
> cool! I am not even sure if the rust issues go farther then the rear wheel
> wells. I dont even know if the car runs or not. It is this way ugly green
> color but it is all there. It has the a 232 in it and I believe a three
> speed on the tree. If anyone could give me an offer price on this car and
> some help, it would be greatly appreciated. And of course I will gather 
> more
> information also. The car is located in Western Montana.

> Bill Northern Idaho



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:34:46 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO <
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F35196FBA7C200310CAC001AC190@xxxxxxx>
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A: The Pony is a RWD version of the Excel (almost the same sheet metal, but 
they also came with wagon bodies) and pretty close to the Dodge Colt (same 
drivetrain) I preferred the Hyundai Stellar (larger motor and better 
ride/longevity) and wouldn't mind having another '88 in my garage. 2.0L OHC 
with the same motor as D50 pickups and auto O/D.


From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO <
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200609281602.k8SG2Zi08281@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Russell Neyhart <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" I thought that the only applications that would be listed
would be AMC,
" Jeep, and Chrysler, but apparently more vehicles used the pan
at least
" if not the whole transmission.  One weird listing that I have
not
" confirmed is accurate is that the Hyundai Pony and Stellar
(Canadian
" models) used the pan gasket.  Maybe something Mitsubishi and
Chrysler
" had going and used the pan and gasket?

is the pony a truck?  the big 3 successfully lobbied congress to
pass
a japanese truck import ban back in teh early '80s iirc, and
since
then all the little 'japanese' pickups have been rebadged
detroit
models.

it is with morbid amusement that i see japanese companies
successfully
import their suvs as -cars- but get them past the epa and dot
etc as
-trucks-.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all
have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none
thought

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:45:34 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Eagle Premier
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F38A8EEA3146DD9A297756FAC190@xxxxxxx>
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A: The engine was sold to Mitsubishi/Hyundai and they fixed the probs with 
it. Motor came back in the Hyundai Sonata and another redesign made it into 
the Dodge Caravan 3.0L engines.


From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Eagle Premier
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200609281614.k8SGEjg08339@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" Rhet
" The Eagle Premier was also sold as the Dodge Monoco before it
finally
" died off. The engine was also used by Volvo and I believe
Citroen.

peugeot and renault.  it was known as the 'prv' engine.  trivia:
it's
a 90* v6 because it was originally designed in the late '60s as
a v8,
but as production approached the first gas crisis hit and a
quick
modification ensued.  afaik the original v8 version was never
made.

as i said in another posting, i've heard that prv sold the
engine to
hyundai and that korean quality is higher.

" I would imagine that there is absolutely no capability of
installing a
" 4.0 in the thing as it is a front wheel drive automobile so
room even
" with the fact that it is a North South installation space is
certainly
" going to be a premium.

i'd agree.  this car has little in common with other amcs, much
more
with other renaults.  with enough money you can do anything, but
this
would be a substantial re-engineering of the drivetrain and
probably
chassis.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay

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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:24:19 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] plastic bumper for 81 - '82 Eagle KAMMBACK
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <451DD553.26935.7D4565@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



Date sent:      	Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:26:06 +0800
From:           	"lanclet france" <lanclet_france@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject:        	plastic bumper for 81 - '82 Eagle KAMMBACK
To:             	hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx

Hello
I am lanclet france from paris france i saw your mail that you
are in need of the above subject stated,i just want to used this
little words of mine to let you know that i have it for sale,and 
still in a
good condition, if you need some pics
of the item i can send them to you once i heard from you so we can
bargain price,
please i only need a serious buyer and i do not accept any type of
check payment i only accept western union money transfer where i will
have my money in my possession before i will ship the item to you so
get back to me with your address were you want to ship it to........
i do used franceairfrieght shipping company for shipping abroad so i 
can go
to thier
office once i got the address where you will be shipping to
so i can give you my least price this is my number you feel free to
contact me +33 494 77 88 994  i will be expecting your call all write 
me
back so we can discuss thanks
......................................................................
......
.............................................................

Bonjour
Je suis france d'lanclet  de Paris France je scie votre courrier qui 
vous ai
besoin du sujet ci-dessus indiqu?, je veux juste ? ai employ? ceci  
les
petits mots du mien vous font savoir que je l'ai en vente, et 
toujours en
bon ?tat, si vous avez besoin d'un certain PICS  de l'article je peux 
te les
envoyer une fois que j'avais de vos nouvelles ainsi nous pouvons  
prix
d'occasion,  je veuillez avoir besoin seulement d'un acheteur s?rieux 
et je
n'accepte aucun type de  paiement de contr?le j'accepte seulement le
transfert occidental d'argent du syndicat o? je   avoir mon argent en 
ma
possession avant que j'embarque l'article ? toi ainsi  obtenir de 
nouveau ?
moi avec votre adresse ?taient vous veulent l'embarquer ? ........  
je
compagnie maritime utilis? de franceairfrieght pour embarquer ? 
l'?tranger
ainsi je peux aller au bureau thier une fois que j'obtenais l'adresse 
? o?
vous embarquerez  ainsi je peux te donner mon moindre prix que c'est 
mon
nombre vous vous sentez libre ?  me contacter +33 494 77 88 994  que 
je
pr?voirai que votre appel tout m'?crire  le dos ainsi nous peut 
discuter des
mercis

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See ?   can't find them here in The United States of America -
but THIS gentleman is rready to SHIP !

- anyone here translate gay Paree' ?


        =Bt=
  milnersXcoupe




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