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Today's Topics:
1. Charity AMX (farna@xxxxxxx)
2. Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO < (Brien Tourville)
3. Re: Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO < (Tom Jennings)
4. Re: Charity AMX (tbenvie@xxxxxxxxxxx)
5. 1965 American Instrument cluster removal...HELP PLEASE !!!
(Bill Serckie)
6. '04 Lex LS430 6spd arrived - Fed Ex - (Brien Tourville)
7. Re: Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO < (Russell Neyhart)
8. Re: Alternative to Carter for AMC Spirit (Todd Tomason)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:16:28 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Charity AMX
To: tbenvie@xxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
Message-ID:
<092620062216.23734.4519A6BC000B39EF00005CB621603762230E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
Tom, yes, the car has stalled in Wisconsin. The main reason I've let it go for a while is the body shop with the car has been doing a superb job AND a lot of work -- that and I've been away in Afghanistan until a week ago. It NEEDS to move this year!! I HAVE been beating the bushes to get another club/group/individual to take the car and complete the interior and the exterior/mechanical miscellaneous items that still need attention.
It saddens me to think that no one wants to do any work on the car in that area of the country. There are groups in the mid west, supposedly, and I contacted a few individuals who were going to "bring it up" at meetings. I never heard back. It was only through the monumental efforst of David DeLabio in Racine that the car didn't get stranded in Wisconsin. We lucked out really -- Zion auto body has done top notch work! They found where the car had been in a wreck and it wasn't fully repaired but patched over -- the right rocker was bent in about 1/8" making the quarter tough to fit. Rather than patch it back up to look right they straightened everything properly. We couldn't have got better body work, but I'm sure they are ready to move the car by now.
I have to tell you, I'm, pissed off at the mid west AMC enthusiasts in general. I know there are some who would have liked to take it but don't have shop/garage space for the car. But you'd think someone in the mid west would be able to do something. This isn't an AIM magazine project, though I have been sponsoring it, it was/is an AMC community project. But there are a few people I haven't contacted directly yet. Jock Jocewicz is one of them. I had planned on doing just that, then Dave located Zion Auto Body and they agreed to do all the body work. You reading this Jock? Drop me an e-mail or call me (anyone interested in taking the car for work) at 302-233-4925.
This is the LAST CALL for someone to winter the car and get some work done. The car was rougher than we (those who conceived the project) expected, and there have been a few bumps along the way, but there's no reason it should have taken this long. If I can't get anyone interested, the car will go back to Tom in the next few weeks. He shouldn't have to do as much work as it needs to get finished. I don't think it can get completed in time for the winter auction, but it could be completed for spring.
So, barring someone actually taking the car for at least SOME more work, is there anyone on the list willing to assist with transporting it to Tom's home near Boston? Yes, there are some funds left. If anyone can get a discounted rate or transport the car for expenses that would be preferred to having a transportation company do it. Give me a couple weeks to beat a few more bushes. I just got back home from Afghanistan -- haven't had time to do anything yet!
See what's needed and what's been done at http://www.mattsoldcars.com/charityamx/index.html.
The last report was almost a year ago, but the car hasn't just been sitting at Zion. They have continued working on the body as time permits and completed more of the work they started. I haven't heard from Dave since I got back in the country, but will be contacting him for an update (just called and left a message, and sent an e-mail!). If all went as planned it should be painted and mainly need interior work now.
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:20 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO <
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From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] TransGo transmission kits
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Has anyone personally installed a TransGo kit in a
Torqueflite? I've got the mildest one installed now (by the
rebuilder, last year) but I really miss the semi-manual behavior
and the hard shifts that I had in my Gremlin.
I have to drop the pan to fix the leaky gasket (like an idiot
I used silicone) anyways.
I assume the valve body has to come off, but what's the F.U. rate
on these kits?
(I have all the right tools: 4lb hammer, 6lb hammer, chisel,
pipe wrench, pry bar, monkey wrench, 3/4" drive set, sawzall...)
=== ===
from prior '70 Street HEMI Torque-flite prowess >
it's a no-brainer.
Trans-Go is / was heavy MoPar 'Select' choice.
follow the directions for modifying your valve body.
don't lose the balls.
go over everyhing visible & blow out everything
for that silicone to be trapped in > way major f.u.p using that on a
Trans.
never too old for a 'pankin Tom ;)
I'll send over a 'Pole Dancer' > any hair color preference ?
milnersXcoupe
NEW YORK
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:06:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO <
To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Brien Tourville wrote:
> follow the directions for modifying your valve body.
>
> don't lose the balls.
THAT I I've heard of... :-)
> go over everyhing visible & blow out everything
> for that silicone to be trapped in > way major f.u.p using that on a
> Trans.
Yeah, just the pan, but THOOOOPID.
> never too old for a 'pankin Tom ;)
> I'll send over a 'Pole Dancer' > any hair color preference ?
I don't think that will be necessary, but thanks for the thought :-)
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:56:53 +0000
From: tbenvie@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Charity AMX
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<092720060056.3024.4519CC550000ECB900000BD022058861720A0790020A0D9B@xxxxxxxxxxx>
rank, once again you are missing the point. The ball was dropped long before
you deployed overseas. Fact is, the project never became what it could of
become-there has been little if any press exposure, little if any solicitation
of donations or parts outside of the AMC hobby, and very little exposure inside
the hobby. Only a few people stepped forward tomake anything happen as far as
actual work-which is okay, because a few are better than none. there have been
some pretty rotten decisions made about the car, parts to buy, status of work,
etc. The car was worse than you expected? What does that mean? you got a car
with stright floors and gussets-not bad for New England. And it was a 70, and
mostly complete, a 2 owner car. the quarter was damaged worse than
expected-well, when the car left here it had a mint used qurter for the side
that we knew was damaged. When damage to the other side was discovered I
donated the other side, and dave from Ga. willingly came up to Bost
on and picked it up./ It left here with ram air, but it turned up missing-I
donated another complete set, with air cleaner. The wheels were bad- (but not
when it left) so I sent out some more, complete with NOS trim rings, etc. more
was asked, I sent out more and more. last i knew there were two right side
seats-how did that happen. Missing a rocker molding and window-where did it go?
On and on and on. Now you say you need a "few more weeks" to find someone else
to finish it. you've had a few years. "Won't have it done in time"-says who?
yeah, if you continue to procrastinate nothing will get done. If I knew you or
AIM would somehow be in charge the car would have stayed right here in Mass.
It's been 6 years-a lot of people have donated a lot of time, money, and parts
to get this done. No time to wait Frank-use the cash you have to get it shipped
back here. it will be finished and if it is ion the shape i am told it is in,
it will be ready for auction. The guys left in
the New England Club will get it done, find the resources to get it shipped and
to the auction. Enough is enough-time for excuses are over. "LAST CALL" for
what, Frank-I am offering the help needed to get it done, and get it done now.
Tom, yes, the car has stalled in Wisconsin. The main reason I've let it go for a
while is the body shop with the car has been doing a superb job AND a lot of
work -- that and I've been away in Afghanistan until a week ago. It NEEDS to
move this year!! I HAVE been beating the bushes to get another
club/group/individual to take the car and complete the interior and the
exterior/mechanical miscellaneous items that still need attention.
It saddens me to think that no one wants to do any work on the car in that area
of the country. There are groups in the mid west, supposedly, and I contacted a
few individuals who were going to "bring it up" at meetings. I never heard back.
It was only through the monumental efforst of David DeLabio in Racine that the
car didn't get stranded in Wisconsin. We lucked out really -- Zion auto body has
done top notch work! They found where the car had been in a wreck and it wasn't
fully repaired but patched over -- the right rocker was bent in about 1/8"
making the quarter tough to fit. Rather than patch it back up to look right they
straightened everything properly. We couldn't have got better body work, but I'm
sure they are ready to move the car by now.
I have to tell you, I'm, pissed off at the mid west AMC enthusiasts in general.
I know there are some who would have liked to take it but don't have shop/garage
space for the car. But you'd think someone in the mid west would be able to do
something. This isn't an AIM magazine project, though I have been sponsoring it,
it was/is an AMC community project. But there are a few people I haven't
contacted directly yet. Jock Jocewicz is one of them. I had planned on doing
just that, then Dave located Zion Auto Body and they agreed to do all the body
work. You reading this Jock? Drop me an e-mail or call me (anyone interested in
taking the car for work) at 302-233-4925.
This is the LAST CALL for someone to winter the car and get some work done. The
car was rougher than we (those who conceived the project) expected, and there
have been a few bumps along the way, but there's no reason it should have taken
this long. If I can't get anyone interested, the car will go back to Tom in the
next few weeks. He shouldn't have to do as much work as it needs to get
finished. I don't think it can get completed in time for the winter auction, but
it could be completed for spring.
So, barring someone actually taking the car for at least SOME more work, is
there anyone on the list willing to assist with transporting it to Tom's home
near Boston? Yes, there are some funds left. If anyone can get a discounted rate
or transport the car for expenses that would be preferred to having a
transportation company do it. Give me a couple weeks to beat a few more bushes.
I just got back home from Afghanistan -- haven't had time to do anything yet!
See what's needed and what's been done at http://www.mattsoldcars.com/charityamx/index.html.
The last report was almost a year ago, but the car hasn't just been sitting at
Zion. They have continued working on the body as time permits and completed more
of the work they started. I haven't heard from Dave since I got back in the
country, but will be contacting him for an update (just called and left a
message, and sent an e-mail!). If all went as planned it should be painted and
mainly need interior work now.
--
Thomas M. Benvie
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:23:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Serckie <amo9123@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1965 American Instrument cluster removal...HELP
PLEASE !!!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hello,
I am in the process of replacing the instrument cluster glass (plastic) on my 1965 American 220. Does anyone out there know the secret to removing the defroster selector knob and temperature control switch knob. They have probably never been removed and I do not want to take any chances.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill Serckie
1964 Classic 660
1965 American 220
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:56:53 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] '04 Lex LS430 6spd arrived - Fed Ex -
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date/Time
Activity
Location
Details
Folks !
-- will MOder'n wonders never cease ? @ ~! --
take a look at THIS shipping extravaganza !
Sept. 8 thru the 25th. ! > 'Lexi6' arrived WITHOUT the
shipping pallet at ALL >17 days from Michigan TO NY >
via ='The Lost City of New Jersey Tour '06' => ..not from RUSSia
even !
gotta' lupin' gRound Trip' To-From-To: KEASBY N.J. > TWICE
to that 'City of Light' driving 'Lake Nuke Sewage Interstate' -
FeD Ex STILL has no Idea what went on > ;) ........ or where ....
or by who..... where........
nEWburg to NEW Paltz is some >... 30minutes on a 'Diesel Rabbit'
..... by the way > .......Kay-RiceTUHh ~!
Sep 25, 2006 9:49 AM
Delivered
New Paltz, NY
--
Sep 22, 2006 7:22 AM
On FedEx vehicle for delivery
NEWBURGH, NY
--
Sep 15, 2006 4:28 AM
Departed FedEx location
KEASBEY, NJ
--
1:36 AM
Arrived at FedEx location
KEASBEY, NJ
--
Sep 14, 2006 10:49 PM
Departed FedEx location
PAULSBORO, NJ
--
8:58 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
PAULSBORO, NJ
--
5:09 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
THOROFARE, NJ
--
8:36 AM
In transit
THOROFARE, NJ
--
Sep 13, 2006 1:31 AM
Departed FedEx location
KEASBEY, NJ
--
Sep 12, 2006 11:02 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
KEASBEY, NJ
--
9:29 AM
Departed FedEx location
TOLEDO, OH
--
5:34 AM
Arrived at FedEx location
TOLEDO, OH
--
12:38 AM
Left origin
LANSING, MI
--
Sep 11, 2006 7:47 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
LANSING, MI
--
5:30 PM
Picked up
LANSING, MI
--
Sep 8, 2006 5:33 PM
Package data transmitted to FedEx
Lansing, MI
*These guys must be under the diRection of the State Department !*
Anyway > this trans is 'All That and more' !
A761E : 2004 Lexus Ls430 6spd. Transmission:
It is wayyyyyyyyyyy lite-weight......wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ultra-lite weight - via latest pressure casting
techniques >
my knee-caps are still bouncing two inches off the ground from
hauling that '70 Street HEMI Torque-flite to the ForwardAir shippers -
and THAT
was Aluminium Cased 2 !
THIS Trans case feels 'EMpty' > buhut it AIN'T !
AND Yes, Aisin Trainees >Future6Sportsfans ..............!
..S'iGh'..............That Bellhousing - SHE .......a 'BOlt-on' !
mutha' luvin' shy-knee Bolts ! all Red-E for unkska-RUEin......
Don't know yet if the AW-4 Bellhousing bolts directly on - can't see
why it doesn't - Trans is currently in the back of my Cherokee - AW4
Bell is in Storage - and -
Have to dig more info. on the bell alignment to centre for the AW-4
bell vs A761E> someone on Strokers KNOWS! ALLthis - but ainn't
talking ......damn !Communistia .. they DID post some pix and data
in 'Pinko' Archive > worth a look to those so inclined> and those
pix will show that - :
this bell IS d'eeper' , since the V8 Convertor is m'utha-deep' -
so... maybe AMC one runs a spacer on an AW-4 bell'e [ not hard to do
;) ]
and up jumps a 'FrogLeapin' Lexi 6spd. mitt der T'oad Groady' lo-lo
first gear ration - for the Schizosaccharomycetaceae AMC Apps. > -
;)
...ehYYyy .........eBAy BE!
...0oh luVes' yah - uhH ?
....'Buck 'n ah 'alf....... '
'nuff said... drool quietly ;)%
=Bt=
milnersXcoupe
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:23:11 -0400
From: Russell Neyhart <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans Go > Silicone is NO GO <
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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...I changed the trans. pan gasket and filter on my Eagle's TF998 a few
weeks ago finding that the "rubber/neoprene" (or whatever it's made of)
pan gasket had decided to retire after almost 20-years of service
(probably). The first one I tried was a filter kit with a cork gasket
(actually the kit came with two gaskets for different pans crumpled up
and stuffed into the box with the filter!) that wasted no time letting
the "pesky" ATF out. I tried unsuccessfully to 1) find a replacement
rubber pan gasket, or 2) find a parts counter person willing to turn
away from the screen and blow the dust off the "ancient scrolls" (a.k.a.
parts books) and see what wisdom they might have contained within. I
finally went to the local Jeep (former AMC-Jeep), after doing my own
research of course to see what else that gasket might have fit, and got
a new pan gasket. The interesting thing is that rather than cork or
rubber, the gasket was nylon. This made it a breeze to install and so
far it has been working fine. Unfortunately no dancers were available to
help. :-(
Russell
Tom Jennings wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Brien Tourville wrote:
>
>
>> follow the directions for modifying your valve body.
>>
>> don't lose the balls.
>>
>
> THAT I I've heard of... :-)
>
>
>
>> go over everyhing visible & blow out everything
>> for that silicone to be trapped in > way major f.u.p using that on a
>> Trans.
>>
>
> Yeah, just the pan, but THOOOOPID.
>
>
>> never too old for a 'pankin Tom ;)
>> I'll send over a 'Pole Dancer' > any hair color preference ?
>>
>
> I don't think that will be necessary, but thanks for the thought :-)
>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:36 -0500
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Alternative to Carter for AMC Spirit
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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My experience with National was good. I bought a Rochester for my 84 GMC
Jimmy. Ran good for the next couple of years before I finally sold it.
(Good is a relative term. This had the infamous 2.8 liter V6. Not an
impressive motor.)
Todd
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 11:52, Tom Jennings wrote:
> Well that's not good news. I was hoping National was as goodf
> as they sounded -- didn't someone here have good experiences with
> them?
>
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