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Today's Topics:

   1. 70 Rebel Machine parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
   2. AMC factory aluminum rims for sale (Eddie Stakes)
   3. NOS vac fuel pump & NOS trannie gears for sale (Eddie Stakes)
   4. Old/new (Mahoney, John)
   5. Re: Front Shocks for 63 American (Sandwich Maker)
   6. Cherokee sway bar end link 'Torx' (Brien Tourville)
   7. 69 AMX FOR TRADE (Jeff & Caroline)
   8. Re: AMC-list Old/new (namdra@xxxxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:34:01 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 70 Rebel Machine parts wanted
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: HSHASKY@xxxxxxxxxx
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WANTED : I NEED A AUTOMATIC CONSOLE FOR A 1970 REBEL MACHINE THAT I AM 
TRYING TO RETURN TO ITS FORMER GLORY. I ALSO NEED A GRILLE, DOOR PANELS, 390 
ENGINE AND LOTS OF HELP FROM FELLOW AMCER'S, THIS CAR WAS AN ORIGINAL 
BITTERSWEET ORANGE CAR, IF THE CODE 79A - 8A IS CORRECT FOR THAT COLOR. ANY 
HELP OR INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. IF I FIND A AUTO CONSOLE I 
WOULD BE WILLING TO GET OFF MY FOUR SPEED CENTER ARMREST.THANKS EDDIE FOR 
THE SPACE! KEEP UP THE GREAT WEB SIGHT! HAROLD SHASKY HSHASKY@xxxxxxxxxx 
419-347-5855
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anyone that can help Harold with the Rebel parts (*he bought this off one of 
my SUAD lists!) please feel free to give him a shout above, thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
Email is currently HEAVY
5-12 day reply times, call if important 



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:32:28 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC factory aluminum rims for sale
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: dfrancis@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Hello all,I've had these wheels on ebay twice...possibly not everyone seen 
them,or thought i had a rediculous reserve on them.well i did'nt.so i 
thought i would turn here,and hope for the best.what i have is a set of the 
turbocast wheels(79 AMX,etc...)in great shape easily an 8 on 10 scale.this 
set includes all 4 centers along with lugs and locking lugs.along with a 
fifth rim that i bought at a junkyard as a spare in case one got hurt(i'd 
give that one a 5 outta 10)mounted on the 4 rims is a set of BF Goodrich 
radial TA's with about 500 miles on them...i made this set 6 years ago for a 
spirit GT i had.but i ended up bailing on the car,and these sat stacked up 
in my garage until recently.in march i put them on a 67 rogue convertible i 
bought,and they looked pretty good.but having the 232,i felt they just 
did'nt fit in(maybe if it would have had the 290 or 343) so i had some new 
tires put on the stock rims and back in the corner of garage went the 
mags.so here's the deal...when i put these on ebay i stated that they where 
for local pickup only,i did'nt want to ship these with the tires cause it 
would be to expensive.(that may have hurt my chances of selling them)so 
here's what i offer.if someone wants to come and get these,the price is 
$500.00(my ebay reserve)If someone would like to have them shipped without 
the tires,the price would be $520.00 to cover shipping.i would also deliver 
this set personally within 100 miles of Indianapolis,In for $600.00.if 
interested,call me in the evening.i'd love to talk AMC and talk about the 
wheels....thanks Eddie for the space,hopefully this will work.and my wheels 
will find a new home... David Francis dfrancis@xxxxxxxxxxx 317-298-7963
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anyone interested int he rims and tires above, give David a shout, he can 
also send you photos of the rims/tires if you email him.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
Email is currently HEAVY
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:36:52 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] NOS vac fuel pump & NOS trannie gears for sale
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: xraymn@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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 fuel pump for vacume wipers hard to find NOS part#3193986 fits many makes 
models AMC's. also NOS gearing parts for T 14. dale xraymn@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
702-499-0930
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Anyone interested in the Vacuum fuel pump above, please give Dale a shout 
thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
Email is currently HEAVY
5-12 day reply times, call if important 



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:04:17 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Old/new
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
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It wouldn't be an AMC list "lecture" if at least one "illustration" was not unavailable when called upon to make a point, so if anyone didn't get to see the AMX "Mini" tire inflator, here's another option.  At:

http://www.freakingnews.com/search.asp

search for "Verne Troyer" --- if technology is really worth its cost, you may get a result.  Will the AMC list ever be a "words-and-images" thing?  Probably no more than AMC itself ever became a "Big-4" maker.  Everything involving AMC wanted for money: there was/is never enough.

But --- that shouldn't stop us from trying.  Or sometimes succeeding.

>>
The original American Motors flyers states: "the meeting guide poster
is guaranteed to turn your audience on!
<<

In 2006, could you "Turn-on and tie-in with the groovy AMX youth scene" anywhere BUT in this online AMC community?  Why -every- AMC fan with a computer (or with a library card...) isn't registered as citizen or contributor is beyond comprehension.  Maybe, if AMC is the last independent, it's more a case of "Better dead than read."  (Or maybe the independently-preserved life of AMC --- from funny 45s or folded build orders or folio-ed pencil sketches to faded paint chips --- and all the individual histories that die when their holders do, may someday coalesce into the non-profit AMC archive beside the national Nash-Rambler-AMC museum that would showcase the complete history of American Motors in documents and on wheels.  We can only hope that can happen: just as AMC hoped to survive and to succeed.

Today, virtually no one remembers how innovative AMC was in its effort,

http://faculty.concord.edu/chrisz/hobby/67-DataBook/DataBook012.html

but that doesn't mean that everyone does not still owe a debt -to- AMC.

http://tinyurl.com/kghx6

"GM recognizes that it needs to improve the perception of their vehicle ownership experience.  That will take time, but it is an important component in the company's effort to grow market share.  Other automakers, notably the Korea-based Hyundai, have seen extended warranties pay off in increased sales.  Such expanded coverage can subtly alter a brand's image and boost showroom traffic."

- Jeremy Anwyl, President, Edmunds, this week (maybe wasn't born in 1967)

>>Re: how not to sell a car

(Referring to the dog-day eBay Ambo: maybe a '66 in -dog- years...)

It's too bad that "how not to..." seems "how to..." too often with AMC.

It's too bad too, that too few AMC fans seem to see a '66 is a '67.

It's too bad that too much of today's AMC sensibility seems stupid.

If that never changes, AMC will never earn or receive much respect.

But if the other makes dumb down enough, AMC might become brilliant.  In a recent newspaper, brilliant for-sale ads (or "adds") ran for a Cadillac "Broham", a Chrysler "Concord", a Geo "Prism" ("Corolla" is never misspelled), and a Kia "Sophia."  25% of the American population is "functionally illiterate" in 2006, so it's just a matter of -time-.

You will be dead, the real AMC will be forgotten, and the AMX/Jav/Mac/+ pod will still be cool.  One of those AMCs really will cost $115,000, but there still will be no Big-4 list, community, museum, or archive.  Unless.  Hey you.

If Fisher Body had survived, it would celebrate a centenary on 7/22/08; if GM is still alive for its 100th birthday (9/16/08), Americans may be unwilling --- or unable --- to buy new GM cars --- unless this America becomes smarter -really- fast.

If the history of American motors had taken a slightly different turn in 1934, AMC history would not be written as it was.  Do you know the chapter from GM history that could have rewritten the future story of American Motors itself?  Do you know who designed the [sole survivor] (of several prototype cars commissioned), or where it [once] could be found?  Do you think AMC history "around the edges" is as interesting as is AMC "straightaway" down the muscle car drag strip?  If so, you have a calling.

Be smarter.  Offer more.  Do more.  Innovate.  Be more like your AMC.



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:09:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Front Shocks for 63 American
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200609090009.k8909rT01974@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: eddie walker <thematadorman@xxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Any mopar from 1955-1988 except A body 1962-1974 with drum brakes (valiant, barracuda, lancer, swinger,scamp etc.) will work .  A bodies with disc brakes had the bigger 5 X 4 1/2 .They were all 5 X 4 1/2 including trucks, vans Ramchargers.. Truck and Ramchargers and vans went to a 5X5 in mid to late 80's.I think 85 or 86. I am not sure.

many 1/2t pickups [4x4?] and equivalent vans had 5x5.5" lugs, but the
'low end' were 5x4.5".

" I have 1969 dodge Polara rims on my 77 Matador and 62 Dodge rims on my Concord.

i have '83 lebaron 15x7s on my '65 american with big bendix disks.
they fit like gloves - except for the hubcaps.  i planned to run
mopar taxi/van nonames, the only ones i could find without logo or
lettering.  i would've liked rambler caps even more but they clearly
don't fit.

i've always thought the mopar rallies, or the 15x8" repros, would look
killer on the '67 marlin i had, or probably any '67-8 ambo coupe or
convert.

"   Almost all Ramchargers had 15 X 8 rims in the 70's and were an option on trucks. Dodge Magnum had slotted 15 X 7 and had a center cap. Police cars and taxis had slotted 15 X 7 and hubcaps...Super Coupes, Kit Cars, and Little Red Express trucks were 15 X 8 and were slotted with chrome on the trucks......lots of them out there ......eddie walker

there was a rare slotted 15x8 that was offered with flares in a
'richard petty' volare kit along about '78.

my point was that there was a hubcap size change in the mid '60s, and
-i-think- [based on an application chart for a kelsey aftermkt
replacement] that pre-change mopars take the same cap size as amc.
and mopar used 14x6", 14x6.5", and 15x6" fairly widely about '60 +/-
a few years.  they wouldn't likely fit disks, bot for a drum '63
american...

radials like wide wheels.  even if you run the stock size equivalent
they'll be happier if you add 1 - 1.5".  i can confirm for later
americans that 185/78r14 go on 14x6" without any difficulty.

btw those ramcharger wheels are about as heavy as you'd expect for a
6000+ lb truck.  i hefted one and it felt about twice the weight of a
rambler 14x4.5".
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:45:52 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Cherokee sway bar end link 'Torx'
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4501D680.17481.9C4068@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII


http://tinyurl.com/jynd3

=or=

http://www.ilovejeeps.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16462


what a pita !   I'll whack the top of the one in the Cherokee &
blaze a bolt on top > voila!



   Brien Tourville
      NEW YORK


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:13:53 -0400
From: "Jeff & Caroline" <jbennett1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 69 AMX FOR TRADE
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000501c6d3b5$99771f60$eea57e46@caroline4dv1dm>
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A growing family has me looking to trade my 1969 AMX GO=PAK 390 auto car. 
Looking for V8 rogue-scrambler-machine-rambler. This is a
80,ooo mile survivor-hunter green charcoal int-tilt-a/c am/fm car. Will 
trade up or down. I figure this car is worth 10 k. Putting out some feelers

Jeff Bennett
Tampa Bay




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:59:13 -0500
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-list Old/new
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060907.085914.-16380383.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

John Mahoney said: >?  Do you think AMC history "around the edges" is as
interesting as is AMC "straightaway" down the muscle car drag strip?  If
so, you have a calling.>

John, I "resemble" that! Ha! Ha!
 
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA     NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
          JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
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