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Today's Topics:
1. Cordova Cruisers from Springfield, MO or Jefferson City, MO?
(Jesse)
2. '06 AMC NATIONALS PRE-ENTRY (namdra@xxxxxxxx)
3. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 7, Issue 51 (Poncho7amx@xxxxxxx)
4. Re: Chilson's AMC family reunion car show (Jim Shadwick)
5. 65 Ambassador 990 for sale MA/RI area $995 (David Borkman)
6. '06 AMC NATIONALS ADS (namdra@xxxxxxxx)
7. SC/Rambler sold (Gary)
8. Penske Javelin Front Suspension, road racing upgrades
(hal.lynch@xxxxxxx)
9. Re: Mustang II Suspension? (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
10. Additional 1970 and newer Options. (John Elle)
11. Hurst V gate 4 speed shifter and AMC Roller rockers for sale
(BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:01:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Cordova Cruisers from Springfield, MO or Jefferson
City, MO?
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Well, I will probably be driving my J10 full of parts
to Cordova rather than the AMX... a dissappointment to
my son! Maybe picking up a J10 on the way back, so I
can't tow a trailer, but we'll see!
SO, is anybody from the Ozarks area heading to the BIG
event? Maybe we can hook up a make a Caravan!
Have a great week,
Jesse
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:55:08 -0500
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] '06 AMC NATIONALS PRE-ENTRY
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For those of you that are not members of NAMDRA and have not received a
pre-entry form to the '06 AMC NATIONALS, below is one you can use. By
pre-entering you save $5 (it is $5 more at the gate) and receive a free
gift.
Swap Meet Space (All The Room You Need)
$25 Including Spouse & Children Under 16....$______________
Car Show (Per Car)
$25 Including Spouse & Children Under 16....$______________
Car Corral (Per Car)
$25 Including Spouse & Children Under 16....$______________
Race Only
$35 Including Spouse & Children Under 16....$______________
Race & Show Combo (Per Car)
$45 Including Spouse & Children Under 16....$______________
Meet T-shirts (Include Size/s Needed)
S, M, L, XL are $20ea..................................$______________
XXL & XXXL are $23ea,.................................$______________
TOTAL........................................................$___________
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NOTE* - T-shirts are $2.00 more if mailed to you.
Send check or M.O. made out to NAMDRA and mail to:
NAMDRA, PO Box 987, Twin Lakes, WI 53181-0987
Pre-entries must be received by 9-13-06.
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:22:20 EDT
From: Poncho7amx@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 7, Issue 51
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anyone no the dates and times for the chilson show in p.a. this weekend
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:54:12 -0600
From: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Chilson's AMC family reunion car show
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From the "AMC Forum"
http://www.amcforums.com
Chilson's AMC family reunion car show
Where..... Lawrenceville, PA
When...... Saturday, Sept. 2nd
If you arrive Friday night there is also a local cruise
This years highlights include Bobby Allison's NASCAR Matador, direct
from the NASCAR museum in Talladaga, AL. Also appearing will be Wally
Booth's Hornet and Gremlin pro stock cars. Don't miss one of the years
best all AMC events.
FREE food & FREE vending
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:23:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David Borkman" <dborkman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 65 Ambassador 990 for sale MA/RI area $995
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Hi all,
This just showed up on the local CraigsList - not mine. Looks like a good
start for a unique project.............
Good Luck,
Dave Borkman
Saunderstown, RI
http://providence.craigslist.org/car/199254067.html
Ad TEXT:
1965 Rambler Ambassador 990 - $995
Reply to: see below
Date: 2006-08-26, 4:10PM EDT
rare 2 dr hardtop; auto; 287 v8; power steering w/ tilt wheel; white w/
blue interior; seats have been redone; needs restoring....call Mike (508)
963-5859
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:37:39 -0500
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] '06 AMC NATIONALS ADS
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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If any of you will be selling AMC or Jeep parts, literature or vehicles
at the '06 AMC NATIONALS you can email me an ad of what you will have
there and I can get it in the next newsletter but I will need the info by
Wednesday the latest!
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:29:50 -0400
From: "Gary" <gwniel@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] SC/Rambler sold
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I posted previously that the SC I had for sale is sold. I have had a few
people contact me recently on it. The car is sold. Thanks for the interest.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:43:16 +0000
From: hal.lynch@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Penske Javelin Front Suspension, road racing
upgrades
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Armand wrote
Sorry I can't add anything to the conversation other than I like the front
end of my 70 Javelin just fine for the street. How ever I have been trying
to chase down information on the 70 Penske cars front suspension for a long
time. I wonder what modifications they used to make the cars handle better.
Anybody have any information thay could send my way?? Maybe some photos of
the real cars suspension ?
I researched the Penske Javelins front suspension when I was building my 70 AMX road racer. The Penske cars used a custom fabricated box spindle, gusseted lower control arms and center link. I also found out that Stock Car Product's Grand National NASCAR Ford type spindles will bolt right on to the upper ball joint on an AMC and have a similar overalI size to the AMC spindle. I put them on my AMX and they work great. You do need to modify the lower ball joint to a larger size, but this process is easily done while your gusseting them anyway. The nice thing about the NASCAR spindles is that you get much larger bearings and you can use any of the many aftermarket brackets to adapt any road racing brake system you want. A few years ago I also added Ron Water's coil over conversion, which allows you to use any of the Carrera racing shocks and weight jacking capability.
Hal
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:21:16 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mustang II Suspension?
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I'm not going to quote any of John Elle's last post -- it is a "must
read" if you've seriously considered a Mustang II front end though. His
and the one I posted that prompted it as well. I think the two of us
covered everything rather thoroughly.
Most people consider using something like a MII front suspension to get
rid of the trunnions. I think everyone with a real knowledge of trunnion
suspsnesions has pointed out that a modern rebuild will eliminate all
the problems. The biggest "problem" most people have with their
trunnions is that they are 36+ years old and worn out. Nothing lasts
forever, even ball joints need to be replaced after that span of time!
If you really want to get rid of the trunnion, there is an easier way.
Get the steering knuckle and upper arm from a 70+ car. Cut the end of
the upper arm off just behind the spring seat. Cut the original upper
arms so that they intersect the 70+ section the correct distance away
from the body (center of ball joint should be the center of the knuckle
position in the trunnion. Weld the two together. Better yet, get some
threaded tubing and some urethane bushed rod ends that pivot on the end
and weld those on. Or even better, fabricate a new upper arm. A lot of
people will cry "nay!" to welding on the suspension, but as long as it's
done properly anything can be welded. Might be best to take to a
professional rather than DIY though. Fabricated MII arms are all welded
together -- either by machine or a pro. While you're at it, get one of
the MII strut rod eliminator kits that bolt in place of the original arm
and have a weld on pivot point as John suggested. Don't even think about
one that straddles the crossmember -- the AMC crossmember won't take
that any more than the original MII will. Keep the AMC lower crossmember
and arm.
All that will still cost 2-3 times what replacing the trunnions with
urethane bushed ones, and there won't be any real gain, but "thaose
hated trunnions" will be gone. It's your money -- bring the car to SC
and my shop in about two years, I'll be all set up and ready to do the
work by then!
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:26:25 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Additional 1970 and newer Options.
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The following information is also highly informative here and worth
looking into for those that are curious.
Unfortunatly these options are not available for use on the 1969 and
earlier Trunion equipped cars but they
Certainly are interesting;
SNIP
Date: Sunday, August 27, 2006 05:15 PM
From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
There are some pictures here of how they beefed up the components.
http://www.amx-perience.com/TransAmRacing1971.htm
SNIP
This is fascinating. On the lower control arm though based on my working
with them I would not suggest welding
both sides of the control arm to the bushing. One side is a press fit,
the other is a clearance tolerance and needs
to be so that the control arm motion can be correct for street use. This
is a case where the limitations of racing
are well defined and the so is the flexibility needed for street use.
snip
From: hal.lynch@xxxxxxx
<mailto:hal.lynch@xxxxxxx?subject=%5bAMC-List%5d%20Penske%20Javelin%20Fr
ont%20Suspension,%20%20road%20racing%20upgrades>
I researched the Penske Javelins front suspension when I was building my
70 AMX
road racer. The Penske cars used a custom fabricated box spindle,
gusseted
lower control arms and center link. I also found out that Stock Car
Product's
Grand National NASCAR Ford type spindles will bolt right on to the upper
ball
joint on an AMC and have a similar overalI size to the AMC spindle. I
put them
on my AMX and they work great. You do need to modify the lower ball
joint to a
larger size, but this process is easily done while your gusseting them
anyway.
The nice thing about the NASCAR spindles is that you get much larger
bearings
and you can use any of the many aftermarket brackets to adapt any road
racing
brake system you want.
Snip
Here is a case where "BLING" factor can be utilized on an automobile
that was out of production before
The use of the word was defined. It too is limited to the 1970 and
newer but what a potential mind blower
this one is.
But remember, there is a price involved here too.
SNIP
A few years ago I also added Ron Water's coil over conversion, which
allows you to use any of the Carrera racing shocks and weight
jacking capability.
SNIP
For those of you who are in to coil overs here is the web site url;
http://www.classicone.com/wsc/catalog/amc_x.htm
This is a seriously well designed conversion package but again. It ain't
cheap either
But it could be almost cost justified. While you are here looking check
out the
rear axle conversion too! This is probably harder to cost justify for
street use but
then again BLING factor could be high on it!
Let us not forget either that amount of description that DOC has shared
with us on the
building of his recent Hornet. He is like many of the people on this
list one who will
take the time to share his knowledge or experiences to help and aid
others.
even if it is just support for doing something you don't think you can
do, DOC is there
with it.
Now if you don't think that you can't build a nice looking and superbly
presentable
car on a budget, ask DOC to send you a picture.
Dawgone, this hobby is fun
John.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:00:58 +0000
From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Hurst V gate 4 speed shifter and AMC Roller
rockers for sale
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I have a Hurst V gate 4 speed shifter with the bars for a BW T10 AMC type.it is complete and in perfect working order 175$
I have a set of brand new in the box,never used 1.6 ratio 3/8 studs AMC alum V8 roller rockers made by Purple Angus racing 150$
I don't have pics.Please email me at BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxx if interested
regards
Bart M.
73 Gremlin 360/T10 project
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