[AMC-List] 6 cylinder help/belts!

["John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>]

Richard, 
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I working on the 80 Concord Wagon to fix the front seal, I got lost a
bit.
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Not too unusual
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I decided to leave off the emission stuff.
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For a variety of reasons, this may not be the best of idea's but 
that is another day. 
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Well I did learn that I cannot run a single belt from crank to power
steering ove water pump to alternator.  No tension on the water pump!
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This is another one.
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Plus, cannot figure out where to bolt the alternator exactly that will
allow
the rest of the timing cover bolts to go into place.
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This is another one. 
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Does anyone have a lead on where to find a good pic for the placement of
all
the front stuff again.
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Not sure
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 And is there an alternative to run all the parts
correctly without going back to the emission set up?
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This is not your problem yet!
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  It also has AC which is not working at this time and I noticed that
 I would have to replace the fan pulley with a two belt set up to run
 the AC later.
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This is!
 
First of all there is 12 different unique belt configurations that you
can have on the I-6 in 1980 depending on the source of the engine. As
mine in my Spirit is from a Pacer I had to verify which configuration I
am using. It turns out it is a Six Cylinder with air conditioner,  power
steering, air pump equipped, and an alternator configured as a Concord,
Spirit, AMX and Eagle. Things get interesting if the accessory package
changes. 
The bracketry on your Concord for 1980 assuming you also have power
steering mounts the alternator below the air conditioning compressor.
The air conditioning compressor drives the Alternator thus the reason
for the dual pulley on the air conditioning compressor. If you don't
have air conditioning the alternator mounts up where the compressor
mounts. You do not have the bracketry to mount the alternator anywhere
but where it belongs on your car with A/C. If you don't have the A/C
compressor mounted you will not drive the alternator. The belt for the
A/C compressor has an idler mounted low that runs on the outside of the
belt to apply tension to it and keep it from flopping around. The A/C
belt is tightened with an idler and it's bracketry that mounts just
above the water pump on the drivers side front of the engine. 
Assuming you have power steering, the power steering pump mounts on a
bracketry assembly that reminds me of a Chinese puzzle that almost
defies description and the power steering pump belt also drives the
water pump, thus you only need one V groove in that pulley. The dual
pulley on the power steering pump mounted just below the surface of the
block on its Chinese puzzle bracketry drives the air pump. Thus the air
pump can be removed if you feel it is important with out affecting the
correct routing of the belts. However as I live in a state with smog
inspection and these cars may be come collectable if in nice shape and
as I already own 2 1980 AMC cars, a Spirit and an AMX should the smog
pump not be on the car and it is for sale. I'm not interested, it won't
pass smog and the parts are getting very hard to find. But that is just
my reaction to missing smog parts. 
If you do not have a power steering pump and nothing was said about it,
there are idler assemblies apparently installed to replace missing
components so you probably are going to have to find a parts car to get
the pieces required to run belts on your car as the existing brackets
won't get the job done if you leave things off. 
Sorry about that. I may have some pictures that may help you in this. If
you can be more specific. 
John. 
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