Re: [AMC-List] 401 crank wanted & IH question

[msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Yeah, I imagine that you needed something like that to carry those anchors.  Hard to believe that they actually had a problem with mixing up the motors.

-Spro

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> 

> I believe the BB is referring only to engines built for IHC pickups and similar 
> sized vehicles. The V-401 and V-461 were used in trucks like 2ton and larger. 
> 
> Ken 
> 
> Quoting msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx: 
> 
> > AMC 304's were not used in IH vehicles. The 304 was an IH motor. If you 
> > find a red 304, I would assume it was just an emissions model that Frank 
> > referred to and the red paint is just a coincidence with respect to IH. IH 
> > also didn't make a "400" or a "401" of their own according to 
> > BinderBulletin.org. The largest IH-made V8 displaced 392ci and they call it 
> > "the 392". However, I agree that they referred to the AMC 401 as a "400". 
> > 
> > See below for some search results from BB. You'll have to scroll through 
> > some of it due to some random search hits. 
> > 
> > 
> http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=AMC+232+258+304+401&; 
> match=any&titlesonly=0 
> > 
> > Try different search combinations including the keyword "AMC". It coughs up 
> > some bits of info regarding special tools to service AMC drivetrains and 
> > transmissions in the IH world. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Spro 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message ---------------------- 
> > From: Frank Swygert 
> > > John, you got that backwards! IHC made a 401 for their bigger trucks 
> > > before they started using the AMC 401 in their pickups and Travelalls. 
> > > IHC called the AMC V-8 a "400" to help prevent confusion by their 
> > > dealers/parts people. So the parts from an IHC 401 won't fit an AMC 
> > > 401, but parts from an IHC 400 will interchange with the AMC 401. 
> > > 
> > > As stated, all were painted red and all IHC 401s came with a 2V carb 
> > > stock, no factory 4Vs as I recall. The 2V carb was the only deviation 
> > > from the AMC version. The 304 and 258 were the same as used by AMC 
> > > except for the red paint (AMC did paint some CA spec engines red in the 
> > > late 60s or early 70s though). 
> > > 
> > > On July 16, 2006 John Elle wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Roy 
> > > > International used AMC engines in some of their applications. I have 
> > > > seen 401s, 304's and some I-6 engines. They were painted red. 
> > > > SNIP 
> > > > In Need Of a 401 Crank! Perfer standard on rods and mains But,email 
> > > me 
> > > > with 
> > > > what you got! 
> > > > Or do you know if an IH crank would fit? 
> > > > SNIP 
> > > > However there is absolutely no relationship between the 400 cubic 
> > > Inch 
> > > > International engine and the 401 AMC engine. There are no parts that 
> > > > will interchange at all. 
> > > 
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