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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Proportioning Valve (Gary Parente)
2. I-Pod, MP3, MP4, Poket PC's..... Sattelite! (Jesse)
3. Fw: 1968 Javelin z-bar, pedals & interchange questions
(Eddie Stakes)
4. Re: Fw: 1968 Javelin z-bar, pedals & interchange questions
(Mark Price)
5. Re: I-Pod, MP3, MP4, Poket PC's..... Sattelite! (Sandwich Maker)
6. Re: backfire through carb (Ken Ames)
7. 1956 Nash Ambo - Oregon (RetroRalph)
8. Fw: Rambler for sale (RetroRalph)
9. Re: backfire through carb (Tom Jennings)
10. Re: Timing, AMXfiles technical resource link (Tom Jennings)
11. Re: I-Pod, MP3, MP4, Poket PC's..... Sattelite (Tom Jennings)
12. Timing (Mr. AMC)
13. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55 (Jim Boone)
14. Re: American rear ends (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:15:09 -0400
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:08:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] I-Pod, MP3, MP4, Poket PC's..... Sattelite!
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OK, so an Ipod actually doesn't play MP3's... it plays
a proprietary format called MP4 which locks you into
their system. For those who have been captured and
are looking for a way out due to a desire to change
formats there is a software package called "Bad Apple"
that allows for translation.
Many people with I Pods have experinced a failure
after 14-16 months... in fact you seem more likley to
have a failure if you failed to buy the extended
warranty, so if you buy one get the warranty! The new
ones play videos, have a contact manager and other
cool features, but they're not the only options out
there.
I prefer the pocket PC's which can run windows
programs, movies and play MP3's and can be plugged in
or transmited just like an I Pod.
I like my Sirius sattelite radio as I can listen to
the same stations all over the country and I can hear
more than music... comedy, sports etc... I am not
even a big sports fan, but today I was even able to
listen to WImbledon coverage!
Well, there's my .02!
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:01:30 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 1968 Javelin z-bar, pedals & interchange
questions
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Wilson, Larry" <larry.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <015401c69a37$01c42b70$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Larry below is running into some z-bar problems and clutch/brake pedal problems, if anyone can help him out please feel free to reply and copy your reply also to Larry, he would appreciate it and thanks in advance to all who might reply.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilson, Larry larry.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: 1968 clutch parts
Eddie,
Do you have the Z-bar, the pivots and the bell housing bracket for a 1968 Javelin. I have two 1970 setups (z-bar, pivot bushing, bell housing bracket, and z-bar to clutch fork rod), but it seems to be too much work to modify everything to fit. I thought I was done, but now noticed that the Z-bar to the clutch pedal is too long from the 1970...
I could probably use the 1970 clutch pedal to z-bar link???
Can you give me your thoughts and availability?
Larry Wilson
Sr. Development Engineer
Waukesha Engine
262-650-5547 (desk)
262-470-4609 (cell)
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:23:12 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fw: 1968 Javelin z-bar, pedals & interchange
questions
To: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Wilson, Larry"
<larry.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4157651.1151446992782.JavaMail.root@web21>
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I believe if what I have been told is correct you can use the later stuff if you use ALL of it. Don't mix and match. YOu need to use eveythign including the pedals to use the 70 linkage.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Larry below is running into some z-bar problems and clutch/brake pedal problems, if anyone can help him out please feel free to reply and copy your reply also to Larry, he would appreciate it and thanks in advance to all who might reply.
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *email is currently HEAVY
> Call if important*
> www.planethoustonamx.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilson, Larry larry.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:56 PM
> Subject: 1968 clutch parts
>
>
> Eddie,
>
> Do you have the Z-bar, the pivots and the bell housing bracket for a 1968 Javelin. I have two 1970 setups (z-bar, pivot bushing, bell housing bracket, and z-bar to clutch fork rod), but it seems to be too much work to modify everything to fit. I thought I was done, but now noticed that the Z-bar to the clutch pedal is too long from the 1970...
>
> I could probably use the 1970 clutch pedal to z-bar link???
>
> Can you give me your thoughts and availability?
>
> Larry Wilson
>
> Sr. Development Engineer
> Waukesha Engine
> 262-650-5547 (desk)
> 262-470-4609 (cell)
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] I-Pod, MP3, MP4, Poket PC's..... Sattelite!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200606272314.k5RNE7Q04567@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" OK, so an Ipod actually doesn't play MP3's... it plays
" a proprietary format called MP4 which locks you into
" their system. For those who have been captured and
" are looking for a way out due to a desire to change
" formats there is a software package called "Bad Apple"
" that allows for translation.
mp4 is not proprietary, it's mp3 with pictures. realplayer and wmp as
well as quicktime can play it. tivo uses it. well actually since vid
and aud come from separate chips, their files have a soundless mp4 vid
stream + a mp3 stream, for computational reasons. there are tools you
can run under linux at least that distill the tivo file into a proper
mp4 which you can watch on any computer, but they take cpu cycles a
tivo doesn't have on-the-fly.
there are probably lotsa tools that'll extract the sound data from an
mp4 file.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:23:07 -0600
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] backfire through carb
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Not all cars with the feedback carb had the knock sensor though...
Ken
Quoting Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> A: If you are running a Carter BBD with feedback carb, the timing will self
> adjust as long as the knock sensor functions unless it's had the Nutter
> Bypass done.
>
>
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] backfire through carb
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <1151307945.28671.64.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Timing.
>
> Retarded.
>
> Me I mean.
>
> On the road trip to Santa Fe last week I'd retarded it on the
> side-of-the-road "a few degrees" to deal with the crap gas I was
> buying.
> A "few" turned out to be 10. Can't beat actual measurement!
> Didn't
> pinging though, uhuh.
>
> The 87-93 Clymer's Jeep 258 book I have, says the carburetted
> motor
> wants 9 - 11 btdc static timing. I never bothered to look in the
> newer
> books before [but wanted to double-check the new-fangled timing
> mark
> setup], I assumed (ahem) it would be the same as older models
> (usually 4
> - 6btdc). Wrong again.
>
> I set it to 8btdc. I'll find out tomorrow on the drive to Irvine
> (45 mi.
> each way). I hope I'm not wrong a third time.
>
>
>
> -
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:03:51 -0700
From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1956 Nash Ambo - Oregon
To: "AMC-List" <AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <001301c69a46$577ee500$6400a8c0@ralphs1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Ad in The Oregonian Today...
1956 Nash Ambassador Country Club project car, 2 door hardtop, $4000 OBO or trade.
Phone 503-744-0940
I have no further info. Please call seller at phone number provided.
______________________________________________________________
Ralph Ausmann - Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx>
http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links"
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:11:58 -0700
From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Rambler for sale
To: "AMC-List" <AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <004f01c69a47$796ab670$6400a8c0@ralphs1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=response
Re-sending again. previously rejected by moderator...
RA
_______________________________________________________________
Subject: Fw: Rambler for sale
> Forwarding to the group. Please call the seller direct. This is at
> Vancouver, WA, USA.
>
> Many Thanks to Dave Carter.
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David carter
> To: ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:38 AM
> Subject: Rambler for sale
>
>
> Ralph,
> spotted a 64 Classic for sale in a yard in Vancouver. A 2dr hdtp, white
> w/ split bench red interior. 287/ AT, needs w/shield, rear bumper & lr
> taillight assy. Body looks pretty straight, window sign says small amout
> of rust on top of rf fender (didn't look bad). Says fuel pump & tranny
> leak. I haven't heard it run, but the sign says it does.
> Price was $1000, that was crossed out and now says $900
> Phone #'s 360.607.1347cell, 360.882.7644hm
> Located 1 block west of 5 corners on NE 76th st in Orchards.
> Dave Carter
> ______________________________________________________________
> Ralph Ausmann - Hillsboro, OR - > ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links"
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] backfire through carb
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606271749240.15160@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; FORMAT=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Jim Blair wrote:
> Too retarded is more likely to cause backfire under those conditions. Also
This AM I bumped it another 4 degrees; slight pinging on hard
accelleration, and no backfire.
Total static (no vacc hose, idle) advance is now about
12btdc. This seems high to me, in spite of the TSM. I may yank
the distrib sometime to see if the mech advance is sticking
or something; I'll RTFM and find out what total mech adv is
supposed to be (after I ascertain just what the hell distributor
is in there! Some late-ish model Duraspark job).
I suppose I should get one of those recurve kits (if I didn't
already) and do that then.
I did take your hint though on failing duraspark boxes; I
brushed off an extra one and put it in the trunk.
Thanks Jim!
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Timing, AMXfiles technical resource link
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606271755200.15160@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Winslow, Ralph (GE Infra, Aviation, US) wrote:
>
> There is a section on ignition timing on the AMX Files. Go to "Resources", then "Technical", and look for timing. The subject comes up every once in a while, but although a search returns 182 messages, there is no link to the resource guide. Maybe next time this message will pop up.
So this wise-guy Ralph says:
Shortcut:
Set your timing at 12 to 14 initial and 36 to 38 total. Use
advance springs that have all the advance in at 2500 RPM. Run
whatever octane fuel you need to avoid ping.
http://www.amxfiles.com/resource/tech/timing.html
D'OH! So I reinvent wheel! Why didn't I listen to you sooner!
I've been far, far too conservative in my engine timing settings.
Thanks again!
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] I-Pod, MP3, MP4, Poket PC's..... Sattelite
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606271821210.15160@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> mp4 is not proprietary, it's mp3 with pictures.
There are legal problems surrounding mp3 decoders/encoders,
relating to software patents. It's one of those really arcane
but terrifyingly oppressive things being battled up there in
the stratosphere.
Thomson CE has "patented" the algorithms needed to decode mp3s.
Not the programs, but the *IDEAS* needed to decode them. Software
patents are deemed horrible and oppressive by everyone not a
huge multinational corporation.
So you cannot legally write your own program, from scratch,
that plays an mp3 file, technically speaking. Clearly, lots of
people have, but the legal burden (in countries that recognize
software patents, like the US and Japan, but NOT Europe) limits
distribution to those willing to pay the blackmail licensing.
Microsoft does, but for those of us who run linux/unix
exclusively, I have to download it from a european site.
Software patents are analogous not to patenting say the AMC V8,
but the concept of V8. Eg. even from dead-scratch, if you made
a motor with 8 holes, in two banks, you would have to license
the idea first. It's counter to centuries of law and tradition,
and is an attempt to "lock up" markets before they start.
Software patents have created monstrosities such as illegal
books; if you publish, in printed form, a program you wrote
from scratch, consulting nobody, and never once in your life
seeing another mp3-decoder program, that book would be illegal
to distribute. (The same legal technique is used to label
encryption "munitions".)
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:41:57 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Timing
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <2864-44A1DE65-7515@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
Re-invent the horse? LMFAO. I am to old for this, when I laugh this hard
somthing snaps or hurts. :-)~ I'll keep my old horse thank you. I
upgraded things that were problems when the car was new but never tried
to fix something that wasent broken. Something I learned from my father
many years ago the hard way.
"Doc"
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:30:55 -0400
From: "Jim Boone" <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY116-F29EDCAE79C0EE9E6A0EECAC7F0@xxxxxxx>
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I'm not sure I'm understanding you guys; Should the adjustable
proportioning valve - aka Wildwood or whatever the brand is - be IN ADDITION
to the stock AMC proportioning valve? You just junction the line to the
rear brakes AFTER it goes through the stock one? Or, should I try and
remove the stock one alltogether?
The brake warning light is coming off of the stock PPV?
Jim Boone
Mims, FL
>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:35:47 -0700
>From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brake balance valve
>On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 10:49 -0700, russ hathaway wrote:
> > So Brian, do I understand that if I don't care for the
> > warning light (when I run into that semi I will know
> > the brakes failed) I can just do without that doo dad.
> > I would like to hook up my brake sending unit off that
> > first junction, then get an adjustable prop valve like
> > all them big city hot rods have.....Russ
>
>Yup. I now wish I had done just that when I replumbed the brakes in my
>Hornet; I recreated the factory setup (with later model brake-imbalance
>switch setup). I should have just plumbed it without that silly valve,
>it would have saved a lot of clutter and inconvenient brakeline bending.
>
>The check valve in the master cylinder provides the held-pressure for
>the rear drum brakes.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:40:45 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] American rear ends
To: <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>, <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E65FD7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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All 196 and 199 engines got the "big nut" rear even in 65 -- until they
were used up anyway. 232s never got them though there is no strength
difference between "big nut" and standard yoke rears. Proabably just the
phase out stage.
--- original message -------------------
Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:37 PM
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
I vote for Jessica Simpson. Anyways, the big nut rear
was on the 64 also, I believe. At least mine came that
way. The Hornet, Gremlin, et al rear end will not bolt
directly into the American. I tried!! And since the
whole rear will not fit, just a hair too wide, the
axles won't fit directly either as they use the same
carrier. It seems if you want to ditch the big nut get
a 65 or later American rear, my 65 doesn't have the
big nut. I swapped in a 69 wagons rear into my 64 and
I will put the Hornets brakes on that rear end by
pulling the axle apart. They use the same bearing and
seal, so it looks to be piece of cake.....Russ
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