Re: [AMC-List] Fw: AMC Trannys: 727s, OD, a518 & various ??'s

[adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)]

" From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Josh below is new to AMC, so welcome to AMC. He has a number of questions 
" about transmissions, hopefully some of you that are experienced in this 
" field can help him out, please feel free to reply and also copy your reply 
" to Josh who would appreciate it although he may be joining here and also 
" will be reading this list. Thanks to all who might reply.
" 
" ----- Original Message ----- 
" From: <jd.greenplate@xxxxxxx>
" 
" 
" > Eddie,
" > I'm 15 and am restoring a 72 AMX as my first car.  I have a few questions 
" > regarding transmissions. First, does any 2wd chrysler 727 bolt to my AMC 
" > 360? I believe that the gear reduction starter on a chrysler is on the 
" > drivers side, and has the solinoid built in, whereas an AMC uses a ford 
" > starter on the passeger side with the solinoid in the engine compartment, 
" > correct? Do I need a 727 from a Jeep or AMC, or can a chrysler work? If 
" > using a chrysler transmission, are the bellhousing bolts the same, and if 
" > so is a chrysler starter needed. Is there a ford starter that will work, 
" > or can one be modified?  Also, have you ever seen an a518 in an AMC. In 
" > Hemmings Muscle Machines, it says that this 4 speed OD, based off of the 
" > 727, bolts to any 72-78 AMC, and I'm sure this tranny has a drivers side 
" > starter. If I could, I would prefer the a518 due to $3.00 gas, though I 
" > can get a 30,000 mile 727 at reasonable cost. I am willing and able to 
" > modify slightly if needed, as I have access to a garage. If either works
" > what would you recommend?

no, mopar and amc cases are different though internals are the same;
you will need an amc case.  you're right about the starter situation.

hemmings is wrong.  the a518 is based on the 727 but was only made
with mopar [a-block] cases.  a beefier a618 was made for the cummins
b5.9.

afaik there never was an amc/jeep a500 or a518, though jeeps did use
the 42re [electronic a500] with the amc/jeep 4.0.  opinions differ as
to whether and/or how much work de-electronifying would be; the hitch
is modifying the o/d back to hydraulic control.  otoh the 42re was
first used in the '94 grand cherokee and if they have a standalone tcm
like '94 cherokees do, you could just swipe that.

the 727 takes a lot of hp to spin, nearly double what a 998 takes, and
for a 360 in a relatively light car the 998 built with a towing/rv or
police/taxi setup would have good strength.

another path - jeep used gm th400s up until '80, and because of the
scarcity of [amc/]jeep pattern cases adapter rings have been made to
use gm th400s.  these can be used to mount a th700r4 or th200/4r.
see advanceadapters.com .
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