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Today's Topics:

   1. (no subject) (gcmford@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
   2. Re: my 62 classic project (Frank Swygert)
   3. Re: Whiney transmission on my '62 Classic (Tom Jennings)
   4. AC/Heater controls 70 AMX (Don Johnson)
   5. Missed The Grill Completion Deadline For The June 4'th	Show
      (Mr. AMC)
   6. AMC INK (Jock J Jocewicz)
   7. Flywheel needed (JOE FULTON)
   8. wayne's world (Eddie Stakes)
   9. eagle wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  10. SHUT uP & dRIVE/100 aMCS fOR sALE lIST /91\ May 2006
      (Eddie Stakes)
  11. 70 390 flywheel & 68 Javelin parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  12. power steering unit or pulley wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  13. 64 Rambler AC and "R" mirror wanted (Eddie Stakes)


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 06:18:40 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I have to second Tom's assesment. The differential and ring gears are
the same as open driveshaft setups and the later D35, but the pinion
shaft is totally different. The shaft is smaller in diameter than an
open driveshaft axle since it doesn't have to be drilled for a bolt to
hold a yoke on. I'm not sure if the pinion shaft bearings are the same
or not, but would think they are smaller. The torque tube axle can't
easily be converted to open either. It's possible, but would take a lot 
of work. I'd replace with a "big three" axle first. 

I have been told that splines changed on the axles over the years. The
side gears have to be matched to axle splines, of course. 

In general I wouldn't try to change gears in a torque tube axle (or the 
196/199 equipped Americans with the tapered thread rear yoke). Swap
axles, or if you must change gears try to find a good used set. The
later model axles (66-69 American, 67+ big cars) can still be serviced
with new parts. 


On May 30, 2006 Tom Jennings wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 06:33, d stohler wrote:
> 
> >   i have been told its an amc model 15 axle i have in my
> >  62 classic.
> 
> They may not be available in Iraq... but you need to have a
Technical
> Service Manual for your car. Probably $50 - $75 ,but worth every
penny.
> 
> The rear axle assembly in the 62 is a torque tube design, and
utterly
> incompatible with the later rears. As far as I know, no serious hard
> parts will interchange with the later rears.
> 
> Torque tube rears are very reliable, very quiet, very smooth, very
> heavy, and terrible handling. While they can be extremely hard to
work
> on some parts of them, you also hardly need to since the thing is
sealed
> from the weather.
> 
> Axle bearings are A2's or A6's though :-)


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:08:26 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Whiney transmission on my '62 Classic
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 18:27, Justin Shelton wrote:

Bummer! Might be air in the rear pump; I'd take it for an easy cruise,
go through all the gears, and literally get the juices flowing. It might
just shut up and be happy. If it hasn't shut up in a few miles of
multi-gear 40 mph it may need further diagnostics.

You know to check the fluid in NEUTRAL, not park, right? (Don't ask me
how I know :-)



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:37:19 -0400
From: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AC/Heater controls 70 AMX
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi,
I enjoy the list and find the posts very informative.
I am adding AC to my AMX because I am an oldster and being cool is now more important than being fast.
I am short 1 piece. The  dash controls to the left of the steering wheel.
If anyone has that piece, please get back to me.
Thanks,
Don


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:16:20 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Missed The Grill Completion Deadline For The June
	4'th	Show
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
	AmericanMotorsModelbuilders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
	BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <5876-447E15B4-2619@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

Due to a lot of different things including my back going our last friday
I cant finish the grill resto in time for the show this sunday. I could
rush it as my back is better but the quality of the finished job would
suffer. My back is getting better so I will be able to take the car to
the show, just without the finished grill installed. :-( After numerous
hours of masking I finally was able to paint the silver yesterday. Today
I cleaned up a small amount of over spray and started to paint the
individual grill ribs by hand with a brush today. This also will be a
long tedious job, 3-4 day's a few hours each day a most. I have an
appointment at my friend shop to clean and detail the car early tomorrow
morning. Late in the day and till saturday night it is going to rain. So
once the car is cleaned tomorrow it will be in the garage till sunday
morning for the show when the weather is supposed to be nice. In the
mean time I will still be plugging along on hand painting the ribs on
the grill so by the middle of next week it can be clear coated and
installed by the end of next week. The next project on this car should
be easy as I am just restoring the double black factory pin stripe on
both sides of the body. A little 3M Blue Fine Line masking tape and some
prep work and some One Shot sign painters paint an it will look factory
new again. Then to cutting the dark smoke tint letters by hand for the
windshield tint job. :-( 
"Doc"






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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:41:55 -0500
From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC INK
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060531.174156.-16318439.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
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The July '06 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines has a 5-page story on the
AMC T.E.A.M racing and a 1-page story on a 230,000 mile 72 Javelin.

The July 2006 issue of Musclecar Enthusiast has a 5-page story on a
get-to-gether with "Mr. Javelin - Guy Hadsall Jr. and an 8-page story on
an AMC 390 dyno test.
 
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA     NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
          JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974,  NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Flywheel needed
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060601002311.47294.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I was working on the 64 Classic but had some bad luck
in the last couple of days.  The short story is that
someone has transplanted a 232 six into the car in
front of the T-96 tranny.  The shift linkage was toast
so I replaced the steering column and shifter.  Got
the car running and it at first ran well but I did not
try to drive it.  A few days later, after sitting I
restarted it and it had no oil circulation to the head
and the dry valves clattered.   I connected a
mechanical oil pressure gauge to the engine and it had
50 pounds of oil pressure with the oil cold, but still
no oil to the head.  Then later it had good
circulation to the head again. Something is
periodically blocking circulation to the head.  Yes, I
pulled the shaft rocker bolt and the suspect head bolt
and tried to clean out the passage. I also used engine
flush.  

I thought I would try to move the car without letting
it run too long (dry valves) and there is a terrible
racket when I depress the clutch.  So there are two
(possibly connected) problems which need further
investigation.  

In short, I will pull the engine and tranny and check
everything out before proceeding further.  However, I
have a 196 engine ready to go in the car and a good (I
think.) T-96 with O/D.  

I need a flywheel for the 196. This engine had an auto
tranny behind it in a previous life so it has a
flexplate now.  Does anyone have a 196 flywheel they
will part with?

This will hopefully be a project for this summer, as I
need to shift my attention to another car right now.

Maybe not so short after all, huh?

Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:29:25 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] wayne's world
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	"Jeni Panhorst" <me@xxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <022501c68512$70b714f0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Won't get anywhere $18K for this, documented or not,  but worth checking out 
anyhows:
http://ww2.collectorcartraderonline.com/morephotos.php?adId=83616363
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Call if important*
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:23:25 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] eagle wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Doug Shepard"
	<dshepard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: kevinmccue@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <026101c6851a$c72f7d60$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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WANTED: EAGLE SEDAN 1986 or 87, decent running condition with working 4wd 
and nice body, don't care about color as long as theres no damage. My price 
range is at or under $2000... I live in FLORIDA so can't reach much farther 
than 500 miles away. Also will consider the odd 80 or 81 with the fulltime 
AWD. This body style is impossible to find nowadays, so if you have one, my 
email is kevinmccue@xxxxxxxxxxx  all emails replied to. Thanks! Kevin
==========================================
anyone wishing to reply give Kevin a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:22:01 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] SHUT uP & dRIVE/100 aMCS fOR sALE lIST /91\ May
	2006
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	"Doug Shepard" <dshepard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <026001c6851a$c6dc0630$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Hurricane Season is here, time to stock up on AMC 4X4 wagons to get you 
thur, they take a beating and keep on ticking. A good array of cars for sale 
this SUAD for May 2006. Choose wisely Obi-Wan and you could drive your NEW 
American Motors vehicle to either National meet this summer, the AMO 
Nationals in July, and NAMDRA National in September. Click on "amc meets & 
events" on this site for more info. One more note. $3 gallon gas? No Problem 
for American Motors and Ramblers. You will find "The Economy Champs" 
produced a wide variety of vehicles that get great gas mileage, from 
121-4cylinders, 151-4cylinders, 195.6 cylinders, 199-6, 232-6, 258-6, and 
Mexican 282-6 to name a few. Good luck and Happy Hunting, Eddie Stakes
=============================
FREE 68 AMX body no eng, trans, still much good 805-528-3884
68 Jeepster, 225-6, 3spd, 360-668-3059
78 Pacer SW, 304, AT, and
72 Hornet, 4dr, 304, and
73 Gremlin parts car, complete, and
75 Pacer, 232, 3spd, and
77 AMX, 258-6, 4spd, and
77 Matador coupe, 360, AT, 56K, and
79 AMX, 258, 4spd and
79 AMX, 304, 4spd, black,and
79 AMX, 304, 4spd, red, and
80 AMX, 258, 4spd, and
81 Eagle Kammback, and
83 Eagle SW, 258, rare 5speed, and
84 Eagle Limited SW, and
78 Gremlin GT, and
77 Gremlin, 232, AT, 208-695-6851
69 Javelin BigBadOrange, 390, AT, $6500 and
72 AMX, 401, AT, $3200 and
82 Jeep Laredo body, $1000 and
78 Matador coupe, 360, AT, $700 503-653-3436
72 Ambassador Brougham SW, 360/4V, AT, and
73 Ambassador Borugham SW, both for $800 360-871-4437
63 Ambassador 990 SW, 327, AT, $3000/obo, 360-892-8692
73 Matador, 4dr, 304, AT, $2500/obo and
71 Hornet SST, 304, AT, $1900 and
72 Ambassador SST, 304, AT, $2300 618-635-7056
72 Javelin SST, 360, AT, 727-461-4900
73 Javelin, 401, AT, $12K, 910-893-2484
70 AMX, $19K, 925-829-2825
72 Javelin SST, 304, AT, 214-533-7682
68 AMX, 350/350, $20K, 888-889-2486
74 Javelin SST, 360, 4spd, $9000, 949-651-8096
70 Javelin SST, 360, AT, $9300, 614-361-7792
74 AMC US Mail Truck, $1850, 952-955-2706
71 Jeep DJ-5, 403V8, $2500, 918-396-1908
73 Jeep CJ-5, 304, $5800, 925-567-6009
74 Gremlin, 31K, 258, AT, $5000, 630-393-2373
72 Javelin SST, 304, AT, $9500/obo, 347-678-4453
69 Javelin SST, 290, 858-672-8809
71 Javelin, 360, 4spd, 704-399-1708
68 Ambassador SST, 343, AT, $1200, 310-325-4590
71 AMX, 360, AT, $5000, 508-669-5659
69 American, 2dr, 232, AT, $600, 262-694-3111
72 AMX, 360, AT, $6000, 440-236-3733
72 Gremlin X, 304, AT, $4800/obo, 310-721-7565
68 American, 232, $3200, 815-964-0238
68 AMX, dragcar, runs 9.70s, $18K, 330-492-3840
74 Matador X, 304, AT, make offer, 510-471-8660
74 Hornet, 258, AT, $1500/obo, 917-753-6452
70 Javelin SST, 343, AT, $5000/obo, 540-473-2785
69 Javelin, 401, 727, $12K, 651-438-9392
72 Gremlin X, 304, AT, $1500, 425-228-8514
69 AMX, 401, 4spd, $12K/obo, 386-295-9008
77 Hornet Sportabout SW, 258, AT, $1500, 618-635-7056
78 Matador 4dr, 360, AT, $2900, 239-415-1967
76 Pacer, Waynes World/Paramount vehicle, $18K, 815-385-3644
82 Spirit GT, 51K, 888-889-2486
84 Eagle, 4dr, $1200/obo, 847-830-6443
78 Gremlin, 305 Chevy, 616-301-9090
81 Eagle SW, $6000, 931-424-8290
79 Jeep J20, 360, AT, $1200, 248-442-4822
85 Eagle SW, $800, 612-207-0500
78 Concord, 57K, 2dr, 258, AT, $5300, 714-998-4872
84 Eagle, 258, $1500/obo, 414-427-8065
83 SX/4, $4000/obo, 401-568-6618
75 Hornet, $3000, 404-691-6581
84 Eagle SW. $3500, 540-463-6491
83 SX/4, 63K, 330-297-1857
81 Eagle, 4cyl, AT, 43K, $3200/obo, 859-468-9630
76 Gremlin, 460V8, $12K, 702-348-5166
84 Eagle, 4dr, 248-544-2992
78 Matador, 360, AT, $3900/obo, 800-856-7290
81 Eagle, $1800/obo, 414-534-8512
75 Gremlin, 4K, $3200/obo, 440-967-9302
76 Pacer, 258, AT, $600, 630-584-6108
82 Eagle, 2dr, $600, 815-439-4927
81 Concord, 258, AT, make offer, 617-825-8152
68 AMX, 390, 4spd, 34K, $20K, 304-485-2585
72 Javelin project and
73 Javelin project, pair for $600, 641-394-3205
80 Concord, 2dr, 258, AT, 36K, $3500, 865-376-0745
76 Pacer, 48K, 258, AT, $3500, mheg3836@xxxxxxx
69 Rebel SW, 290, AT, $3000/obo, 610-435-6511
83 Concord, 4dr, $1400, and
84 Eagle Limited, $800, and
69 AMX, 390, AT, $3000, 330-676-9730
64 American 440 conv, 232, AT, $3000/obob and
86 Alliance conv, 1/7L, 5spd, $2000/obo and
87 GTA conv, 2/0, 5spd, $4000/obo, 814-495-9798
72 Matador 2dr, 401, 727, $3400, 218-634-2882
85 Eagle SW, 79K, 315-866-6638
74 Javelin, 360, AT, 705-329-2377
73 Javelin, 304, AT, $1200/obo, 847-249-7483
66 Ambassador 990, 327, 104K, $6500/obo, mspangler@xxxxxxxxxx
73 Hornet, 4dr, $3500/obo, 559-535-5158
68 Javelin SST, 290, 4spd, 972-998-7014
====my own fleet for sale below this line=======
68 AMX parts car,  on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4632920558
***NOTE THE DEADBEAT HIGH BIDDER HAS NOT PAID ME SINCE END OF AUCTION**
THIS CAR WILL BE RELISTED SHORTLY....AGAIN!!!!

69 Ambassador SST, 290 Typhoon, AT, loaded, driven daily, $975
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4630772691

71 SC/360 Hornet. 360cid, Hurst 4spd, Ram Air, Twin Grip, Go Pack, more,
To see more, click on the SC/360 Registry where I have a number of photos
and info. $10K

72 Ambassador SST SW, 360V8, AT, AC, PS, PDB, 2way rear
tailgate, much original paperwork including AMC plastic owner card,
invoices, ect, bought from original owner. New items in past several
years include: Ford 2002 purple paint, tires, limosine tint, carb, starter,
solenoid, fuel pump, just also have installed NOS items like grill, tail
lights and more.
Has brande new front tires, complete rebuilt 727 Torkflite, and brakes inc.
rotors, calipers, also has new dual exhausts with Flowmasters. Driven daily
good tags, $3500/obo. A few pix click here:
http://www.motorheadtrader.com/board.cfm?CatCode=AAA
then scroll down to my 72 Ambassador SST wagon.

74 Hornet Sportabout DL/GX SW http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/1621044.html   $575
or click recent ebay auction here. The car did sell on ebay buy buyer backed
out due to shipping it to VA...so it still is for sale. Here is the auction
with
lots of info and pix:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4561296222&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAS:US:3

81 Eagle Station Wagon. Rare 4cylinder, 4spd.
http://epage.com/js/mi/c0/1764174.html $1500

82 Eagle SW Planet Houston Swap Meet Tow Car $1400

68 Rebel convertible 401, AT top frame **wanted**
http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/1468364.html

More pix available of any of my cars above, just ask; or visit
http://www.motorheadtrader.com/
and search for "A" makes.
Eddie Stakes





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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:26:24 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 70 390 flywheel & 68 Javelin parts wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: harry bublitz <nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <026701c6851a$c860aa60$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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 Hello, I need a flywheel for a 70 amc 390 also parts for my 68 javelin red 
door panels,both red armrest,grill,front bumper, red buckets, steering 
column with out gear selector, chrome peace that fits on the front of the 
hood, left front fender, thanks Harold Bublitz nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx
=====================================
anyone that can help out Harold give him a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
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www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:28:36 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] power steering unit or pulley wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: bbo70amx@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <026a01c6851a$c93bef30$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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	reply-type=original

 WANTED: power steering pump with dual pulley system....or just the dual 
pulley if anyone has it.  Javelin Man bbo70amx@xxxxxxxxxxx
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anyone that can help the folks out above give them a shout thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:27:22 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 64 Rambler AC and "R" mirror wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Rick Ennis <regency01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <026801c6851a$c8acf5a0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Wanted: Factory A/C underdash unit and parts to upgrade my 64 Rambler 
american convertible. Also, looking for a outside door mirror with the 
rambler 'R' embossed in it. Located in south Georgia. Rick Ennis 
regency01@xxxxxxxxxxx
======================================
anyone that can help out Rick give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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