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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: rear end leaking.... (Mark Price)
   2. Whiney Tranny (JOE FULTON)
   3. Re: Whiney transmission on my '62 Classic
      (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:13:11 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rear end leaking....
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my 69 American has a wicked step seal!   I got nos seal from AJ years ago.
don't look for the newer Americans to not have the step seal on the amc 15 axle
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> " From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> " 
> " From: J. Johnson <imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx>
> " 
> " I noticed that my rear differential is leaking out the front of the
> " diff.  (65 American) Anyone know procdure to repair this (my TSM does
> " not seem to address this unless I am reading wrong area..) and the part
> " number(s) for seals, etc that I will need to fix...  Any advice is
> " appreciated...
> " 
> " 
> " If this is a 196 car with the "big nut" driveshaft, good luck finding
> " the seal! It's a stepped seal that is no longer made. Check the AMC
> " dealers such as Blaser's, and Galvins. They might have one, or there may
> " be repros since I located one about eight years ago (from Blaser, I
> " think). They were difficult to find, and I was told only 3-4 were in
> " inentory at that time. 
> 
> if you really get stuck on this, you could swap the whole rear and
> driveshaft for a non-big-nut american setup.  all 232s plus '67-9 199s
> had them.  in addition [if you have a stick] '68-9 232s have a full
> synchro t-14 that with driveshaft is a straight swap for the t-96.
> 
> " If you have a 232 car it's got a "normal" rear u-joint yoke that's
> " bolted on, and the joint is bolted on also. That seal you can get at any
> " local parts store. It will help to get the number off the seal so they
> " can cross reference it. A Hornet/Concord or Gremlin/Spirit rear axle
> " will fit if you decide to swap, but you'll have to get the driveshaft
> " also. That axle is a little wide for pre 64 Americans, but will fit with
> " stock wheels. A friend put one in a 1960 model. It would have been
> " better with deeper wheels, but it did work. 
> 
> i'm not so sure the hornet driveshaft is the right length for an
> american.  even if you have to have it shortened you'll still need it
> though, as the u-joints are bigger [and more common] than the big nut
> ones.  this is rapidly getting more complicated, as while all
> hornet/concord/gremlin/spirit axles are pretty much the same, your
> '60s tranny needs an early-'70s t-14 yoke - and be warned, at some
> point ['73?  '74?] the t-14 output spline changed from the old coarse
> warner to a fine torqueflite pitch.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:08:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Whiney Tranny
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Justin wrote:
snip
Here's the scenario: I filled the transmission with
oil per the instructions (5 quarts before starting,
then start and add 4 more for a total of 9).  Before
moving or starting the car I adjusted the auto shift
linkage by disconnecting it at the transmission,
pushing in "L" button, and then back under the car I
moved the lever all the way to the back position and
reconnected it.  I then started the car and drove it
by backing up about 20 feet out of the garage.  It
seems to shift right into reverse, then into D1 when I
pulle back in.  It moved back and forth without any
real shuddering.  But the transmission whines whether
the car is in gear or not.
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Well, if it were my car, I would try to drive it and
check the the upshifts and downshifts are normal and
not jerky and that the transmission is not slipping in
any gear.  If all of that is normal, I would continue
to drive it for a while and see if the noise remains
the same.  If shifting is abnormal and/or there is
noticeable slippage, there is a several page
diagnostic guide in the TSM, which may help. 
Unfortunately the 62 TSM doesn not mention unusual
noises in the troubleshooting guide.  

Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 04:48:43 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Whiney transmission on my '62 Classic
To: <justinshelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Only nine quarts? Drive the car around the block then check the fluid
level again. It's probably still a few quarts low -- it should hold
12-15 quarts from bone dry. You followed the procedure correctly, but
you have to check the level after that and add as necessary. Did you
change the torque converter or still using the old one? I hope you at
least got a remnaufactured conveter, otherwise you might have problems
later as the contaminated fluid still in the old converter (there's no
way to get it all out short of rebuilding) finds its way into the trans.
It will take a while, just shortens trans life. But you are likely
hearing the pump with the transmission still 2-5 quarts low on fluid. I
can't say just add two quarts and drive -- get it warm, check level, add
until no longer necessary. 


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