The T-96 was only used behind the 232 in Gemlins and Hornets, and then it was the T-96J, which had a heavier input shaft and a few other components. Even then it was marginal. The T-85 or 86 was used in the Ambo/Classic w/232. It was only used behind the 196 in the Classic. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Independent Magazine" (AIM) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) original message------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: 66 Classic parts for sale & 327/390 items wanted " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> " " " The T-96 is a very weak transmission. I sheared teeth off of a " newly-built T-96 with a 232 in my '63 Classic wagon, cresting a very " steep hill. I was in gear, not clutching, and teeth went pop-pop-pop " from straight-up torque. that sounds a -little- extreme... wasn't it the base tranny in 232 ambos about '69, and 258 hornets in '71? but perhaps those combos were strictly for the purpose of pricing optional drivetrains and not intended to actually be ordered. " It's sized for a 196 in an early American and nothing more. the earliest app i know of is the '46 cj2, even lighter and lower powered than the nash rambler. besides amc, it was also used in the 170-cube stude lark. early/mid '60s 144/170/200 falcons et al had a '2.77' tranny that sure looks like a t-96... i don't know of others. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay