If I pissed anyone off by agreeing to what was said by Doc and Frank, I apologize. I did not, however, offer any unneeded criticisms either, in my opinion. I have never seen the show(I live in the sticks with no money, i.e. cable or sat tv), and probably never will. So I am unqualified to comment on the show itself. As far as the particular job which was mentioned, I feel IT speaks for itself. When it comes to dude in gear you don't love, or who speaks in a way you find irritating, again, without need for unqualified criticism, I just have to say, "Too freakin' bad, guess you just have to live with it." My son dresses like that, talks like that(probably. Haven't heard the TV guy), and right now he's waist deep in his Rambler. I don't like how he dresses and talks. Big deal. None of my business. This is the United freakin' States, and you do what you want. Wa are talking about AMERICAN motors corporation. mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com