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1: {SPAM?} Account compromised: billing information moved or changed
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2: Re: 69 Rebel wagon...
by farna@xxxxxxx
3: Re: My Hornet paint...
by Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
4: Rebel I6-V8 swap
by russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
5: Rebel wagon
by russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
6: Wagon Robe Rail
by russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
7: Re: 69 Rebel wagon...
by adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
8: Re: Rebel I6-V8 swap
by Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
9: Wheelin'
by "Mahoney, John" <JMahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10: Please Unsubscribe me from the mailing list
by Linda Radisi <ljradisi@xxxxxxxxx>
11: testing
by Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:46:43 -0500
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 69 Rebel wagon...
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <ADVANCES62S2TRqf69a0000002a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Yes, the hood scoop (it's a separate piece from the hood) will fit. You should be able to get a reproduction. Contact akjamc@xxxxxxxx (Andre Jacobs) -- I believe he has or can get them.
Personally, I don't think the R/W/B paint scheme looks all that good on a wagon. A solid color with the matte black hood (not quite flate black, just a low gloss -- I think I can find the paint formula) and "Machine" decals would look much better. But that's just my opinion.
On March 3, 2006 Savage, Peter wrote:
> Thanks for the info...
>
> I definitely plan of doing this conversion and the plan calls for it to look like a Rebel Machine Wagon.
>
> Will a Rebel Machine hood fit this wagon?
>
> Does anyone have a cross member they want to part with that can be used?
>
> I just finished up a 6 year restoration of a very rare Cougar and its now time to
> get on with this project. I am starting with a very good body that I plan to paint white and
> add the red and blue accents to match the rebel machine as best I can.
>
> Comments?
>
> Thanks
> Peter
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Subject: Re: My Hornet paint...
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-Id: <1141408721.23405.26.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:58:42 -0800
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 06:35, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Could you send me (or post for all) the info on that paint shop? I'll get my Mat done someday, if I don't sell it, and I definately won't be in a hurry...
>
> Keleigh
Sure thing --
David and Sam Body Shop
4514 N. Figueroa St
Los Angeles CA 90065
323-225-6031
Close to 110, and I5 intersection, more or less.
If you want to be conservative, wait til I get my Hornet back together.
Then we'll have two cars out of that place.
> On March 2, 2006 Tom Jennings wrote:
>
> > Not done YET!!! Close though -- I pick it up Saturday. Just needs some
> > final drying and sanding.
> >
> > Damn it looks good! The two-tone, color on top, works perfectly. Exactly
> > the effect I wanted -- looks like an import-scene car (aka "rice
> > rocket") made by AMC in the 1960's.
> >
> > The paint turned out weird -- good weird. On 1999 Audi TT's, it's
> > straight-up neutral grey (I'd say 5% towards blue, as opposed to brown,
> > direction). I had 'em leave out the metalflake, which gave it a faintly
> > bluish cast. With clear coat, in sunlight, it's definitely got a strong
> > blue tint. There's no way to know this stuff except to squirt, sand,
> > coat, sand, ...
> >
> > Luckily the white I picked complements it perfectly. Its far bluer than
> > I wanted, but it looks totally great. The color is simply inexplicable,
> > a real standout. And the finish is like glass.
> >
> > The doors and most of the interior is white, interior vinyl is neutral
> > gray (same as SEM Warm Grey).
> >
> > The gray/white line will get a 3/32" black tape stripe. I really want
> > painted pinstripe, but I will later get nomenclature done in two-tone
> > white and grey ("Rambler Hornet", "4.2L", etc but in a retro-modern
> > typeface like I did with the gauges)
> >
> > (Yes Rambler Hornet, I like that better. Like the Mythbuster guy says,
> > "I substitute my reality for yours". Only AMCers will know to object.
> > I'll just say it was assembled in the Azores or something.)
> >
> > $2000 even total for body work and two-color paint, not bad. The usual
> > zillion shopping-cart dings, filled all the trim holes, door crease,
> > poked front fender tip. Who says you can't get good work done in cities?
> > (Just can't be in a hurry is all.)
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:21:14 -0800 (PST)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Rebel I6-V8 swap
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Peter, what Frank stated was mostly correct. Here are
my 3 cents worth. On dropping the V8 onto AMERICAN I6
xmembers. One bolt on the V8 biscuit will actually
drop into the I6 xmember bolt hole, if you use the
short perches. This will then leave a second biscuit
bolt just hanging free. So the lining up of the engine
is easy if you sandwich a plate in between the biscuit
and Xmember. By all means weld and gusset the plate. I
used 3/8 steel and just made a template out of
cardboard first with the engine out.
So if you are using the Rebel frame I think the tall
engine perches will work since the Rebel has a taller
hood and wider Xmember. The tall perches are easier to
come by than the short perches.
Also, the I6 uses a different start relay, so you will
need to do a little rewiring. Nothing that a schematic
won't point out. I think it is easier to do a I6 to V8
swap than the other way around as you will need to
omit a couple of wires, than to run some new ones. The
auto has an extra wire over the stick, too, I think.....Russ
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:26:14 -0800 (PST)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Rebel wagon
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Peter; the 69 has some really nice lines, it should
clean up real nicely. I wouldn't try to carbon copy
the 70, but make it a nice "kissin' cousin".
The 390-T10 would have been possible if someone
ordered it that way in 69, so the combo isn't too far fetched.....Russ
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:42:21 -0800 (PST)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Wagon Robe Rail
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I have only seen one 62 Classic 2 dr, and that was at
a swap meet here in Oregon. I parked next to it in the
lot. Kinda rough, but the dude really dug it. It was
stripped down and pretty basic but nicer appointed
than most.
The robe rail is as Joe described. There is a movie
with Myrna Lowe (correct spelling anyone) and some
fancy pants with a pencil thin mustache sitting in the
back of a Packard with a lap robe. When they get to
the opera he drapes the robe over the rail.
That Myrna, what a dish......Russ
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:39:41 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200603031839.k23Idfm13842@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 69 Rebel wagon...
" From: farna@xxxxxxx
"
"
" 4. All big cars with 232 and 258 sixes got the AMC 20 rear axle, so
" you're good to go there! The 3.54 gears will fit your existing axle.
you're right, frank. just dug my '67 and '68 tsm out and they agree -
all-amc20 for the big cars. must be the earlier classics i was
thinking of...
" You should have a 3.15 now, maybe a 3.08.
3.15 std, 3.54 opt. no car amc20 ever had 3.07/3.08 or 3.31, only
jeeps.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Subject: Re: Rebel I6-V8 swap
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-Id: <1141414644.23405.38.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:37:24 -0800
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 10:21, russ hathaway wrote:
> Peter, what Frank stated was mostly correct. Here are
> my 3 cents worth.
3 cents? Inflation?
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Subject: Wheelin'
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:59:13 -0500
Message-ID: <E8DF38ACFC17F94998DE284C5CE4582A462B70@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Mahoney, John" <JMahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Depending on which (there were six) "Thin Man," could've been
=20
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_21843-Unknown.html
http://themave.com/Powell/powloy/films/thman/lobby.jpg=20
which, it so happens, was the name of the first crash test dummy, born =
in 1948, same year the last body-on-frame Kenosha car was also born.
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http://www.calspan.com/history.htm
As always, feel free to read more.
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=3Dw050808&s=3Dorr080905
The scarcity of AMC info can be depressing. Photo(s) of the steering =
wheel I wanted to show to prove AMC's design continuity, I could not =
find in a hurry. The Jav/AMX wheel wasn't what I had in mind. I saw =
that leather-wrapped three metal cut-out spoked "Sports Steering Wheel" =
from the '75 Gremlin Rally Package plus that "Sport Steering Wheel" with =
three partially-upholstered spokes and shiny "wood" center that was =
standard on Eagle Sport Package wagons. Look it up on page 11 of =
#2-2323-835-02. AMC needs more.=20
Depressing day. GM nearly bankrupt, Ford not far from it, new plants =
planned to build more Toyota cars (and Hino trucks) in North America, =
China, India, and Thailand learning how to build quality and style to =
sell to the US, and, for the first time in history, all 10 CR choices =
are Japanese cars. It's not very hard to wonder where it all may end.
The last car built by Studebaker --- whose carriages carried America's =
Presidents --- in South Bend still is -in- South Bend, in a new museum =
designed to seem old. American Motors, the next "last independent" is =
present in many ways in that place on Chapin Street. Romney's compact =
and Teague's cormorant and AMC and S-P --- alive in auto history's mix.
Where's the last AMC built in Kenosha? Where do Jeffery, Nash, Romney, =
and all the rest now rest? Not their bodies, but the body of American =
Motors history that they left? How has Studebaker done what AM can't?
AM needs more than painting Hornets and swapping V-8s into Rebels now: =
it needs archives and articles and architecture. It needs arches that =
soar toward ceilings above much bigger audiences with brighter dreams.
Unlike the future for GM, Ford (and Chrysler), the future for Nash-AMC =
still can be better than the past. Packard did it, Pierce has, Stude =
seems on the road to success and salvation. Where will your AMC head? =
http://tinyurl.com/pf3kh
It's strange how easily we come to accept so many things in life: the =
noises our cars make, the clutter on our desks, the junk music on our =
radios, the weather that's either too wet and cold or too dry and hot. =
Even when we try to see with an eye on history, we still change a lot.
Lunch out today, my acquaintance drove. 60-something American Jew and =
50-something American semi-WASP treating 20-something Spaniard ending =
graduate work in America: ponytail of Antonio Banderas, performance of =
Andres Segovia. !Three Amigos! in a Mercedes, driving to eat Chinese =
food. Too bad more of the world doesn't mix things up like we do in =
America.
The car (a silver 2003 S500 with cool blinking mirrors that he always =
power-folds when parked) was freshly washed: none of this week's salt =
spray (especially thick after chilly sunshine melted most of our snow, =
but, since winter's been relatively warm and snow-free, our tax money =
apparently is being spent to spread salt whether or not it's needed).
He's a real-estate (commercial) developer, with an office in his =
self-named "Tower" (tacky, but, having only 20-something stories, at =
least it's not a Trump) and, for business, he needs to drive certain =
sort of car; certainly part of its cost is, as we too easily say, =
"written off" (which means put on someone else's tax bill). The car was =
newly clean because he was about to turn it in on another Mercedes, a =
2006 S-class (with Mitsubishi bumps on the fenders, droopy door handles =
that do not follow any character lines, and Stuttgart's take on BMW's =
Bangle butt.
The panel gaps along M-B's new decklid make AMC spaces appear narrow!)
He and his partner --- (business, not Brokeback, to specify in this age: =
back when Pierce was America's Mercedes [and Stutz its BMW?], "gay" =
meant "happy," "ecstasy" meant "very happy," and "crack" was seen across =
a sidewalk needing repair, not sold on a street to bring more =
despair)--- run some sort of silly silver car competition: S500 beat '02 =
A8; '05 745Li beat S500. So, soon (if only for awhile), he will "pull =
ahead."
No wonder some of us are more impressed by old cars than by new ones.
What I noticed, though, was not the clean car, but the fact that its =
wheels looked "too small" --- despite the fact that they were only 1" =
smaller than his partner's 18s --- and, of course, 3" larger than the =
steelies that rolled Ambassadors on H78-14s. My mind flashed back to =
when I thought that owning an S would be ecstasy: to 1992, when S was =
the first regular car in America with -huge- 16" wheels. (Since some =
wheels were even bigger, that is.) Then I learned, from '93-96, that =
bigger wheels were, instead, bigger problems: the '93 500SE I bought =
joined the tire-wear class-action lawsuit club. No gay days for M-B. =
(Control arm casting cracks allegedly posed some problems, as well...)
But wait, those were the final days of "old" Mercedes, weren't they? =
The end of ages when engineering was everything, Daimler-Benz wasn't =
DaimlerChrysler, and "the best in the world" was still said in German, =
not translated from Japanese. It now seems that they weren't really =
"the best" or "the worst": just "the way that things were." So, as I =
considered "too small" wheels today (would 19s [or 20s] be "better"?), =
no matter how much one holds onto the past; no matter how hard one tries =
to see things the way they once were, the only way to -really- remember =
the past was to be there and to record it so those who follow can pass =
the truth along. Anything less can be changed by continuing experience, =
charged by contemporary elective, compromised by competitive conflict, =
and clouded by corrosion --- simply stated, sprayed by the road salt of =
life. It's automotive history as we've come to see it, but it may not =
look precisely like it did when it was initially built. We can wash it; =
we can give it a coat of wax; but even if we think we remember -exactly- =
what it was when we drove it off the lot, we may be not be able to see =
it in the right light. But if we have words, images, and documentation, =
we can remember the truth and pass it on. =20
If "the eyes have it" and "food makes the man" are truisms, then today =
was wasn't depressing after all. It was cold and dry, and the sky was =
blue, not gray. The sun'll come out tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar =
that tomorrow there'll be sun. Hang on, grin, and say, "AMC can be as =
good as Studebaker-Packard."
Then, even if you weren't there then (I was only 1), remember that the =
"Dream AMC" was to be Nash, Studebaker, Hudson, and Packard (and REO!): =
It's up to each and every one of you (and to all your "silent partners" =
lurking in cyberspace, sulking in a clubhouse, scraping by in a garage) =
to make that happen. Build a big AMC building. Fill it with AMC paper. =
Record for it your AMC experience. Lend and donate to it your AMC =
cars.
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Subject: Please Unsubscribe me from the mailing list
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From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
Subject: testing
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:30:51 -0600
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> some how my list settings changed checking to see if i can still post
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Ray Mick
Somewhere in Kansas
"The older I get the faster I was"
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