" From: "L. D. Lyons" <ldlyons@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " " " gotta Jeep question, was looking at an 85 waggoner today, The guy said " it had a chevy V6 in it, and it came from the factory that way. During " our conversation he mentioned it had something to do with GM getting " designs frtom Jeep when they aquired AM General. If someone pout there " knows any thing about this I would sure appreciate some info the waggie never had any kind of v6 in it ever, gm or otherwise. when it appeared in '63, it had kaiser's own ohc 230 'tornado' inline, inspired if not derived from the continental 226 flathead they used previously. that only lasted a few years before being replaced by the amc 232 inline in '65. after that, it was 232s and 258s until the end. v8s were also mostly amc - the old rambler 327 '66-8, then when it ran out a buick 350, then back to amc with 304s, 360s, and 401s when amc bought kaiser in '71. a gm corporate order mandated chevy sixes for everyone in '65, so buick unloaded their 225 v6 - 3/4 of their 300, itself an evo of the aluminum 215 later sold to rover - on kaiser, who used it in the cj, again until '71, when amc took over and ironically sold it back to buick. the 350 v8 was a high deck derivative of the 300. factoid - the 225 had twice the hp of the cj's 134-cube four, but weighed -less-. the only change kaiser made to it was a heavier flywheel, and i've heard the cj 225 will idle smoothly down to 200rpm. the xj cherokee that appeared in '84 had as power a four derived from the amc 6, which also replaced the iron puke in the cj, and the chevy 2.8 v6 from the s10 - deities know why. scarcely bigger or more powerful than the four, it did have six cylinders. but those early 2.8s are widely reviled and it's generally considered to be crap. it lasted 3 years, then was replaced by the 4.0 in '87, another version of the amc inline 6. there was briefly an xj wagoneer, but i believe that was post-2.8. the big waggie became the grand wagoneer at that time. gm does not now, nor ever did, own am general. they have a big stake in it now but not as i understand a controlling interest. renault bought into amc in a big way in the early '80s, and because am general also included the old studebaker truck plant with its army 2.5t and 5t contracts, it was sold - to ltv iirc - because defense suppliers cannot be foreign-owned. amg has i believe passed through several hands since then. renault's interest in amc ended abruptly when their chairman was assassinated by terrorists; nobody else in the company cared about the american market and it was shortly sold to chrysler. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought