" From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) " " There was a story about the rum runners and their boats on the History " Channel a while back. One boat yard built the rum runners boats on one " side of the yard and the Coast Guard chase boats on the other side of " the yard. I don't remember the brand of engine they used but in the 20's " it was 2 war surplus water cooled straight 8's out of a WW1 plane. " "Doc" yup. saw a story about him. seems he'd start by telling the runners 'you've had trouble escaping the coasties. you need faster boats. i can help you...' then turning around and telling the guard 'you've had trouble catching the bootleggers. you need faster boats. i can help you...' he brought his idea of light fast boats to the navy in ww2 and they became pt boats. 70' long iirc, triple packard v12s. those 8s could've been packards; they had an air history much like rolls royce or bmw, up to ww2. it's not by accident that packard built the merlins for the aaf in ww2; also not by accident that they were better at it than rr. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought