" From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> " " The engine sounds like the PT-boat V-12s built by Packard in WWII. yup, i spotted that too. afaik that's exactly what it is. " At full throttle the 184 gallons would be gone in just over an hour. yikes! you'd cover a lot of water at that speed though. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought