I deal with people there all the time, even they say (quietly) that their marketing and design strategies are totally schizophrenic. The front drive 6 cylinder Impala, the Monero GTO (more poorly thought out marketing plan I have yet to see), the Firebird and Camaro price/target fiasco. The parts bin Hummers. All concepts that were executed either at the wrong time, to the wrong demographic (most common) or completely ineptly. The list is almost endless. Had a long talk with one semi important guy about the 4.0 Javelin, he looked it over and was just so enthused about it. We had a laugh when we talked about how if they built one it would have satellite navigation, heated seats, 6 cup holders, yaw and antilock controls, power everything, be 4300 pounds (destroying the power/weight ratio), cost $35,000.00, and be styled like a Ford Taurus after going through the committee process. My cousin had the pleasure of seeing the original Aztec drawings, it was beautiful and looked mean as hell, after it went through the 7 wussies out of 10 people committees it was, well, something else entirely (if you have ever driven one they really are pretty good over all). Putting production in line with sales is a funny concept, how about putting out things people want to buy so that sales demand additional production. I hope to hell that GM gets it going (I'm one of the people that counts on them for my livelihood), but without real car people at the helm and good choices starting yesterday I think it's going to be a long painful road. ~J -----Original Message----- From: farna@xxxxxxx [mailto:farna@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:49 AM To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: GM to cut 30,000 jobs, close 12 plants Obviously that attitude hasn't changed! That's why they are where they are, and Toyota isn't. One of the oldest business axioms: "The customer's always right (even when they aren't)". Toyota has been making it a point to listen to customers, while GM has turned the hearing aid off. I hate saying such about a US company, but I really think it's the truth. DCX and Ford are taking a bit more notice, though Ford seems to be throwing out a lot of feelers (I think the 500 isn't going to do so well, unless they get into the cop car/fleet business with it) and DCX got lucky. On November 21, 2005 andrew hay wrote: > i'm not sure it's occurred to them in the last 40 years. back in the > '60s they boasted they could sell anything they wanted to make. > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Andrew Hay ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist