Re: Starter For 401 question

[Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>]

Personally, I'd check the grounds before going much further. There should 
be one that goes between the engine and the body (on my six cylinder 
Americans, it goes from one of the motor mount bolts and the crossmember). 
There's also the battery to engine cable that needs to be in good shape. 
The ground connections need to be made to bare metal and since this is a 
rebuild which I would hope is painted, I would start by making sure that 
there's bare metal under the areas the ground wires attach to.

As a quick way to test this out (bad ground theory), connect one side of a 
set of jumper cables between the starter body (somewhere on the snout, 
perhaps even on one of the attaching bolts) and the negative battery post. 
If the engine cranks faster, you've found your problem.

Matt

At 03:02 PM 9/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> Also, maybe should make sure that you have a good battery to begin with.
> I've have batteries that were supposed to be good but apparently had lost
> their "stuff".  I charged them up and go to start my AMX or Suburban and not
> enough kick there.  Until I got a new battery...  This is especially with a
> warm engine and not necessarily a high compression engine.
>
> As I understand it does not hurt to get the next step up battery for mosre
> cranking amps. If yours calls for a 60 CCA battery maybe should get a 700 to
> 750 cca battery.  You can talk to people that sell the batteries and confirm
> this.  The last two batteries I bought because of this type problem were new
> Exide brand batteries.  They found me a hotter battery but would still fit
> in my battery tray. They spin the starters now...hot or cold.
> Check this out before buying expensive geared starters unless you don't mind
> speding a lot.
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
> To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Starter For 401 question
>
>
> > 1. The stock starter should turn over fast enough. I'd start by replacing
> the battery cables if the old ones are still in there, and go one size
> larger than stock. Don't forget to replace the engine to frame grounding
> starp/cable as well, with at least the same size as the battery cables.
> >
> > 2. If the battery cables don't solve the problem there are gear reduction
> mini starters that are stronger than the stock one and give more header
> clearance to boot. Order one for a Jeep V-8 from Jegs/Summit, or give A.J. a
> call @ South Texas AMC.
> >
> >
> >
> > On September 12, 2005 eddiestakes wrote:
> > (edited)
> >
> > > Any advise for Daniel please feel free to reply and also copy your reply
> to him, thanks for all who might help out.
> > > Eddie Stakes'
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: ptbreezer@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > To: Eddie Stakes
> > > Subject: Starter For 401
> > >
> > > I have  1971 AMC Javelin 401 the bored .30 over. Since rebuilding the
> engine it seems that the OEM start just can't turn over the 10:5:1
> compression the beast is going to be putting out. Would you have any info on
> a good strong starter??
> > > Daniel

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