Re: Dumb Brakes

[Arfon Griffiths <ArfonRG@xxxxxxx>]

> I have to chime onto this drum versus disc brake
> thing. The subject has been dealt with before but
> since they were labeled dangerous I need to edjumacate
> you. The feds required discs to be standard on all
> cars on the front.

A mandate by the feds is NOT a good argument of what is best.



>  Drums are not dangerous if kept
> adjusted and in good repair.

Same for discs.


> <>  Drum brakes & the compounds used for linings,
> when wet or when grease would bleed out , or a spring
> would let go, or a cylinder leaked,  were putting people into the
> other lane,
> into trees, into guard rails and into holes in the ground.

Two thoughts-
1) You say "used", "would", & "were" implying past-tense also implying that 
this is old systems using old technology.

2) Other than a spring breaking (which I have never seen happen), discs 
using the same pad material would suffer from water or grease contamination 
and a leaky cylinder so, I don't see an argument.


> For the mass majority, who are not tinkerers, with Kevlar
> linings, drilled backing plates etc.......... there
> are many more alive than would otherwise be if drum
> brakes were still being pumped out of Detroit.

That is conjecture, not fact.

I could just as easily say that 'more people would be alive if Detroit HAD 
put out more drums' and be just as provable.




> Drum brakes are crap, shit, dangerous, lethal and stupid.

That is an opinion, not a fact.


> In our neighborhood in Mass. , we lost a friends Mother
> to those pieces of crap > on a new Oldsmobile > sent
> her into oncoming traffic when the left front locked up.

I would venture to say that there was more contributing to that accident 
than is being told.  IF (BIG IF) it was SOLELY the brake's fault, it sounds 
like a case of a faulty brake more than bad design.



> So, as to badmouthing drum brakes, yes, you'll catch
> it from me 24/7/365 and them some.

As I will to those crappy-a$$ed discs.


> Now granted I kept the discs on my AMX as I drive that
> harder, but I am not hesitant to take my drum laden
> "death mobile" anywhere my "safety car" will go.

I drive my disc-infected Ford everyday and <I>enjoy</I> the soothing shimmy 
it makes when I come to a stop. :)