FW: An answer

["Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This "Answer" (sent one minute after "Question" was) doesn't appear in the
online list archives, so I'll re-send it.

Apologies to anyone seeing it twice.

Speaking of seeing, did anyone see a wire service photo from Mexico in
today's newspaper?  Car-on-the-street looked like an AMC Hornet.  Probably
called something else there, but still out-and-about before the storm.
Mexico can be AMC's Cuba --- where the old cars just keep going on and on
and on. 

>>
Found this clip at a website for old car
advertisements. Pretty neat! Don't know if anyone has
posted a link to this site before.

Link at -  <http://www.tvparty.com/vaultcomm.html>

68 Rebel clip is down a couple mouse scoots on the
right side.
<<

I interviewed the creative team (two guys and one gal) responsible for that
"Student Driver" ad some years ago; an exciting --- albeit stressful ---
assignment that surprised both their client and their Madison Avenue peers.
The results (turning American Motors' image around and turning ad world eyes
to their work) was something they'd never expected.   

I'm not sure they still had the AMC account when the '70 Javelin (which
tvparty.com must be the sole party to call an "ugly duckling muscle car")
spot was created --- or if they'd gone on to "bigger [budgets] and better
[brands]" by then. 

And, since tvparty.com opines that AMC's "entire product line in the
Seventies was a total embarrassment," they'd
better pass on that sweet "Granny Smith Apple Green" Matador sedan in
Monterey.  Twenty years from now, they might be of a different opinion.
though...

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Mahoney, John  
> Sent:	Friday, July 15, 2005 6:53 PM
> To:	'mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject:	An answer
> 
> One promoted Airflyte:
> 
> http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove/collection/image_250.html
> 
> http://www.buickbombsight.org/53nash.jpg
> 
> sometimes promoting both types of air
> 
> http://www.adclassix.com/images54nash1.jpg
> 
> first, by recalling two-wheel Ramblers
> 
> http://www.splendidpeasant.com/8870.JPG
> 
> http://adattic.com/index.html?target=p_215.html&lang=en-us
> 
> (and precursors to a Rambler American)
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Bicycle-Manual-1891-Gormully-Jeffery-Mfg-Co_W0
> QQitemZ7169938808QQcategoryZ7295QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebay
> photohosting
> 
> http://www.bicyclemuseum.com/Html/bike6.html
> 
> http://www.fattiretrading.com/gjtandem.html
> 
> (whose ephemera-choo is nothing to sneeze at)
> 
> http://www.jeffreythomas.com/cgi-bin/jthomas/9278.html
> 
> and trying to forget two-wheel Airflytes
> 
> http://www.nostalgic.net/index.asp?S=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enostalgic%2Enet%2F
> arc%2Fbicycles%2F1939+Huffman+Airflyte+Twin%2DFlex+8%2Ejpg&Desc=
> 
> http://www.nostalgic.net/index.asp?L=227
> 
> but reviving Airflyte Ramblers with four;
> 
> http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/A4365.jpg
> 
> one, like other long-seated firms, promoted Airfoam:
> 
> http://significantcars.com/1948_hudson_commadore.htm
> 
> (The eighth photo shows what else it claimed, too)
> 
> http://www.melodiesandmemories.com/illus5.jpg
> 
> http://www.plymouthbulletin.com/pdfs/group1_1928_1939.pdf
> 
> ("Calling Page 54" if you remember cop cars;
> 
> or "Where is AMC's big bible?" if you care.) 
> 
> http://www.rareads.com/scans/8012.jpg
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3671446471&category=378
> 33
> 
> If reading & clicking has you farmutshet, before Nash nosh and AM nap,  
> 
> http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B16175.jpg
> 
> I'll post Eddie Stakes' links to Hurst first
> 
> >>
> My favorite shot of Linda Vaughn, might want to share this with the 
> amc-list:
> 
> http://www3.50megs.com/misshurst/linda_vaughn-034.jpg
> 
> All you want to see of Miss Hurst, never understood why there were no
> promo photos of her with new Hurst SC/Rambler:
> 
> http://misshurst.www3.50megs.com/hl01.htm
> <<
> 
> ('cuz Airfoam would've met Airflyte?)
> 
> and then I'll let you rest in peace.
> 
> Today, Airflyte might laud Lexus
> 
> http://www.airflytecatalog.com/
> 
> and slip rings onto LAV wheels  
> 
> http://www.airflyteelectronics.com/^AirFlyte/pdf/vehicle.pdf
> 
> http://www.airflyteelectronics.com/^Airflyte/Home/
> 
> but G & J and Rambler and Hudson and American Motors are just history,
> and few AMC Owners & Drivers find that history to be very interesting.
> 
> That's too bad.  They just might be missing a big part of the AMC fun.
> 
> Once, you may recall, AMC was a "World Standard of ... Car Excellence"
> 
> http://wps.com/AMC/Navarro-parts-bought/images/rambler-junk2.jpg 
> 
> and once, it was trying to raise its top-end performance, as well
> 
> >>
> Just FYI, the R&D head has the following casting numbers in the
> top of the head:
> 
> RD 6 34 86
> 
> and
> 
> 6-11 or might be 6-71
> <<
> 
> >>
> obviously, if it says 6-71 it must be a reworked detroit diesel
> head...
> <<
> 
> but, by design or by other means, its future was blown.
> 
> http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3733&prmenbr
> =361
> 
> http://www.holley.com/types.asp?type=128
> 
> (Duck --- you might be struck with flying iron-y!)
> 
> While you're reading or writing about garage sales...
> 
> Anyone in or near Motown who collects car paper should head for 801 West
> Baltimore Street on 7/30, 7/31 or 8/1/05.  The Detroit Public Library's
> National Automotive History Collection will have 50,000 pieces of ephemera
> available.  Anything and everything, from repair manuals to paint chips to
> <ahhh> press kits, from the largest public archive [GM's is larger] in the
> world.  Admission is $10 each day.  Additional info is at 313 628-2851.
> Buy, buy, buy!
> 
> A final note before I really do go; after Teague's "J" car was posted here
> and its Italian inspiration, Japanese precursor and a GM [far south]
> one-off with which it shared more than just 1970 birth dates were freely
> linked,
> 
> http://www.fast-autos.net/holden/gtrx10.html   
> http://www.fast-autos.net/holden/gtrx9.html
> 
> (if you're intrigued, do diligence and pay Pavlov...)
> 
> why an "X" car company passed "H" on the way to "J" was not mentioned.  I
> waited and wondered if anyone would, but, in true AMC style, nothing
> happened and the topic died.  For those who are interested, I'll touch
> that base before sliding to home.  (It's as hot and humid here as in FL
> [or in MS!], so that's quite easy.  Exit A/C and melt away.
> Hotter here than in Atlanta, Dallas and LA.  Global warming?  Doesn't
> exist?  Fuel up a NavigatExpediTitan-ic SUV!)
> 
> Back to smaller wheels.  When struck by comments that its [1966] Le Mans
> victory was achieved in a "British-built" car, one AMC competitor took its
> program home.  It decided to design, build and test cars "in-house" (in
> Dearborn), even though, in England, the Mk I GT40 was already underway.
> 
> Ford's "J-car" had a completely new body and chassis design (and a
> then-new military aircraft material, honeycomb aluminum), weighing only
> 180 pounds.  It was light and fast, it was also unsafe: test driver Ken
> Miles died in it.
> 
> An American-chassis GT40, with stock block Kar Kraft 427 Ford wiped eight
> Ferraris (by 32 miles), all the factory-king Porsches and Hall's Chevy
> Chaparral off the track, and the wind-tunnel lessons learned by building
> that J-car gave Ford another win in '67.  In NASCAR or NHRA, on the
> streets and in the showrooms, Ford was racing to success.
> 
> Following all the success of Mustang, that much success was too much for
> General Motors, Mopar and AMC to handle.  Petty played for one team;
> Penske, for another.  Pony car wars were about to happen.  Musclecar mania
> -exploded-.  Camaro, Firebird, Javelin, AMX, Challenger, 'Cuda.  The Ford
> J-car that wasn't raced influenced so many cars to follow, including even
> some that were --- and weren't --- produced by AMC.
> 
> In style, "J" spoke Italian, but in Spirit, it was American.
> 
> Don the fedora, short-sleeves, skinny tie and black glasses;
>     
> http://www.cardesignonline.com/images/ford-gt-jcar-1967-a.jpg
> 
> You're designing cars of tomorrow.  It's 2005 in the 1960s.  
> 
> http://www.cardesignonline.com/images/ford-mark2-1967.jpg
> 
> If you think Dodge's "H" car in "Go ManGo" is "Top Banana" today, remember
> when "J" meant American from A to Z.  If you read Kevin Shaw in 5/05 MM
> ("not a Charger" and "missing the mark" and "an adulteration of Magnum
> station wagon" that "failed to capture ... the spirit of Charger"), you'll
> want to think back to J-car days.
> 
> And if you prefer the Spirit of '79 or the AMX of '69, you have just one
> week to vote in the 8/05 CC contest.  If #17 (Randall of Racine) or #21
> (Peter of Baldwin) are your speed, speak by 7/22 or hold your silent AMC
> piece/peace.
> 
> In 8/05 SR's "Complete Guide to Muscle Cars 1962-1971, AMC is noted as
> having had 2% of the muscle car market (with or w/o counting Corvette);
> AMC received one- (of multi-) page coverage, with 11 AMC models listed and
> 2 AMXs shown.  41,609 units total.  A "little car" company, indeed.
> 
> Time to toss this and let it disappear.
> 
> Just like AMC, only smaller.  Whee!!

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