Re: 727 to 518 swap...

["Gary Walker" <NashFlash@xxxxxxxxxx>]

  I've already enjoyed the '86 Grand Wagoneer with 2wd .   I replaced the 
transmission and transfer case many years ago with a rebuilt 727 from an 
Ambassador.   The difference would put a smile on anyone's face.  It is much 
quieter and seems more car-like in ways that are hard to define.   I do not 
believe there is much need of 4wd with the relatively light towing that I 
intend to do, and if I ever get stuck, I'll pay for a pull.  No biggie.  I 
should not have been there in the first place.
  The next step was to be a solid front axle to replace the front 
differential
and I ready researched,  found, and purchased an early Chevy axle which will 
bolt in.  I also found the disk brake adapters to put big discs on the Chevy 
axle.  However, I am now interested in installing a Pacer independent front 
suspension ( IFS ).  I will be looking into that further in the future. 
This swap is not a new idea.  It is being done in half ton trucks.
  Other items I already built or purchased for the Wagoneer are;
1.   360 V8  completely rebuilt w/ towing in mind.  4.45 lift cam R4b intake
     and Blackjack 1 3/4 inch headers.  Plumbed extra cam chain oiler,
     brass freeze plugs, etc.
     ( engine is installed )
2.   A new special 4 core radiator made for the Grand Wagoneer.
3.   New Holley fuel injection system.
4.   New MSD  Digital Six programmable ignition controller.
5.   New Jordan Research Ultima digital trailer breaking system.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: 727 to 518 swap...


> I figured as much -- probably some oil passages inside the case that can't 
> easily be duplicated or hard lined in the old case.
>
> You can always remote mount an old BW OD from a Rambler... or anything 
> else. That's if you have the length to do it, and I don't think you do in 
> a Wagoneer, not unless you ditch the transfer case and go 2WD only. That's 
> easier than it sounds -- do what Jeep did with the XJ! Remove the ends 
> from a front axle tube and weld them onto a long tube without a diff --  
> bolts right in place of the front axle with no mods to suspension or 
> steering. Then a 700R4 or remote OD is feasible. But would loss of 4WD be 
> tolerable to get a better towing/driving rig?
>
> On July 18, 2005 Gary Walker wrote:
>
> > I wish it would work.  I will need a heavy duty over drive for towing 
> > with
> > my Wagoneer.   My friend who was a long time AMC racer and is a newly
> > retired Chrysler mechanic told me there was no practical way.   However,
> > someone may yet make it so.   I like the gear spread of the 700 R. 
> > That
> > 3.07 low is nice, and the wider spacing of the gears is NO problem.    I
> > have had experience with that.  I just wish it was stronger for highway
> > towing.
> >                 Your AMC Friend,
> >          Gary Walker,  Owner of some old AMC stuff  (not junk as she 
> > says)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:27 PM
> > Subject: 727 to 518 swap...
> >
> >
> > > Looking at the website I posted, there is a photo of a 727 and 518 side 
> > > by
> > > side. They look identical up to the point where the tailshaft housing
> > > bolts on. The OD for the 518 is totally in the tailshaft housing. By 
> > > looks
> > > alone it appears that one could possibly take an AMC 727 case and use 
> > > the
> > > 518 output shaft, OD unit, and tailshaft housing to make an AMC OD 
> > > trans.
> > > The 518 is 3.5" longer and would require modifying the rear crossmember
> > > (detailed on the site), but I wonder if this is possible? Or is 
> > > adapting
> > > to the more plentiful GM 700R4 cheaper as well as easier??
> > >
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