American UpGrade DriveTrain

["Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Subject: Stroker questions
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Thanks everyone. I will definately recheck the
strokers site. I did that once before the itch took
hold and I committed myself. My '65 440 is complete
except for a modern engine-tranny so it's time to
treat her to a transplant. This engine rebuild will be
slow as the 232/AT is still running so sweet and I
have so many other things to do. I have this 87 block,
traded a set of heads for it, so I will stay with that
one. I don't want the serpetine belt and I plan to
stay with carbs, I am building a tri-carb manifold for
it, plus points so this will be try and fit deal. But
I have time and lots of parts.
What tranny is sweet for the strokers. I have a nice
904 but no flex plate, can I use the 258 plate. I'm
gonna stay with an AT as this is my driver and I get

lazy sometimes.....Russ 


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Don't think I'm not listening to you, 
I am, and know what you are saying
is 'Lo buk' run what 'cha Brung.

IF that '87 4.0 was in *Nice* condition,
I'd say get the later EFi system with 
manifold / harness / 4sp.
Auto Trans & go for it.

Here is what I've found chasing these
combinations around > from others
who chased these around as well,
many times having spent only to find
it 'Isn't' anywhere what they wanted
nor performed anywhere to what 
you truly expected.

Since you have Time, I say take it 
all in before you get 'firm' on what
will deliver.


1/.  Tri-Power Carbed Manifold.

There is a builder on-line, and if I
can find this again I'll let you know.

I just offloaded all my files to a remote
server to be burned onto CD - my
machine is 'clean' but bereft of Info.

I was ready for a Tri-Power EFi system
to 'Blind' show goers with ........ however.

He built Two Carbed, Three Carbed
manifolds for his Stroker.

Three carbed tanked - made less
daily driver power than the stock
BBD on a 258.

Two carbed
looked nice as do the Twin H Power
Hudsons but failed in making
anything but Upper RPM power.

He runs a 4bbl.

This guy races too, so I don't dismiss
his efforts nor the findings on Daily Drivers.

2/.  The '96+ year 4.0 engines have
more than stronger blocks & main
girdles & better balanced cranks.

They also have vastly Improved Cylinder
Heads and Intake Ports - that go with the
EFi systems.

MoPar spent $$ on the Development.

The EFi coupled with an Aisin 2wd
4 speed automatic ( run by a computer
along with the EFi) STOCK > will
put any 258 / 4.0 stroker carbed
behind any TF 727 or 999 in the
weeds in daily operation enjoyment
and performance.

That 727 takes a sit down 35HP to spin.

Toyota has a 2wd version of the A4W that
came behind the Supra  and if you ever
rode with this trans. > you would love it.

This bolts onto the A4W bellhousing as 
these are bell & trans. systems.

My suggestion Russ, is this:

Find a Low Mileage '96+ 4.0 motor from a wreck &
get the Engine complete > Harnesses >
Computer > Flexptale / Convertor / 
Bellhousing.  Ask them to just unbolt
the A4W trans > remove it & put the
bolts back into the Bellhousing.

You are now Light Years ahead in True
Enjoyabilities >and have spent not nearly
what you will reconstructing a beat '87 4.0
with clogged Oil Galleries...........

Get the 2wd Toyota Supra version of the A4W.

Check prices on www.car-parts.com for one.

You will find that some deliver free, and
the prices vary considerably from Page 1
to Page 'X' > so look at ALL those prices.

I'd just buy the complete deal >
Install the package & enjoy.

IF you feel the need to build a Stroker from
this Newer Engine, by all means Read> Enjoy !

A Tri-Power carbed budget Stroker will give
you what a basic AMC 258 would put out
with an Inefficient Tri-Power set-up.

The GTO guys don't run Tri-Power unless it
is a Restoration Car for Shows > they didn't
run well in their day > ended up on shelves
as junk & now command unreal prices >
Nostalgia Only.


The Strokers guys have piles of parts, 
similar to yours in content....... there is
a reason for the similarities.

Right now, you will spend beyond what a
complete '96 or newer drivetrain costs, 
on parts and
machine shop bills, building the Current Concept.

..... and not have a complete up and running
''96+ Drivetrain with Fuel Injection,
snappy performance, fuel economy,
and a 4 speed Automatic for your
Lazier moods.......... 


Have a Great Summer !

             Brien.
         NEW YORK
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